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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: How much was spent on defective block in total last year?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is about half of the total spend up to that point. The expenditure will need to more than double this year. Notwithstanding the fact Mr. Espey outlined the number of determinations that will be made, I am not hearing anything from the figures we were given with regard to the pipeline that suggests there will be a big jump in approvals, works done or drawdowns.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: There are only 195 determinations of the new applications.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The witnesses from the Housing Agency were looking to come in. I appreciate Ms Stapleton's reply. I do not doubt her comments at all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: After it makes a determination decision, does the Housing Agency have a mechanism to track when a project is likely to go to construction and drawdown? Does the agency have a read of that yet or are we still too early in the scheme?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: What is the total value of the determination decisions for applicants from the previous scheme and those from the new scheme? Do we have a figure for that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: In addition to the approximately €62 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is just Donegal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Do we have a comparable figure for Mayo?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Perfect. I thank Mr. Kelly for pointing that out. I was wondering about it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Let me see if I have these figures correct. Housing Agency determination decisions amount to €62 million. In Donegal, the existing scheme amounts to €132 million. What is the quantum of approvals that have yet to be drawn down in Mayo?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: No, I am looking for where approvals have not been drawn down yet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Mr. Rafferty made the point that this was a demand-led scheme. Here we have at least €200 million in approvals in the system, and the Mayo figure will bring it to over €200 million. That is €200 million that people are waiting for and we have €50 million or so in the pot, with €24 million spent last year. Could the committee get regular information in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I have a small number of questions and then there will be a final slot for Deputy Mac Lochlainn, after which we will conclude. Ms Stapleton said section 45, which indemnifies any public professional working on the scheme, could not be commenced. Are there other sections of the 2022 Act that have not been commenced for similar reasons or is this the only one?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Has any other section of the Act not yet been commenced?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The entirety of the Act has been commenced bar section 45. In plain English will the departmental officials explain for the benefit of the committee what the interpretation problem is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Perfect.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: This is with regard to who could be indemnified under what circumstances and something could be open to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: When Ms Stapleton says "scope", is this the scope of the persons covered by the indemnification or the works they have carried out?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Is there any plan to bring forward amending legislation on this before the summer recess? I presume not.

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