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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Dooley spoke at the beginning of the distinction between commercial and independent. It was staring us in the face but it was too close to us. We needed to actually have it said to us. There is a huge differential because RTÉ can produce independently. Mr. O'Brien outlined the producer being asked to sign away for all areas. That is deeply concerning if it is a trend, which it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Any evidence of that would be helpful to us all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Reams, so produce it formally. We have all got hints and documentation in other ways. It is obvious there are deep concerns in the committee about diminishing worker standards in relation to employment law and outsourcing, particularly in RTÉ. Senator Ní Chuilinn asked a question and it was never fully answered. Where is morale in RTÉ?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Is that "Upfront"?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: There was no consultation on that either.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Has it got worse?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Has that been confirmed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Is there a fear, similar to the religious programming and what happened with the Monday night show, this will happen without consultation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: When did that happen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I understand. We will go around again with Senator Ní Chuilinn going first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I was going to speak to Deputy Byrne about that. As the two Chairs, we could do something together.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I thank the witnesses. I am quite conscious we have an ex-RTÉ employee here as well. The current issues with RTÉ have been outlined pretty starkly and we need to reflect on them as regards what we will be saying with this legislation. The point about the independent versus the commercial, how those sectors get their funding and the conditionality around same is an important one....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: We need it by early next week at the very latest. It would be good if the unions could be quite vocal on the issue of the funding model that was proposed and the streaming levy. We all know the Minister has a certain view on that. We all have a certain view on it as well. It would be good if the unions expressed themselves on that because we are coming to a critical time. When it is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: There is huge overlap. That fact has been enhanced here again in relation to artists, workers and their capacity to earn their livelihoods, and what conditionality we can propose to attach to the transposition of the AI directive in that regard. I am conscious of the workers who are in a difficult and different place in RTÉ. I presume that, with the reduction of 400-odd workers,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: There will be something there for the committee to look at. I thank all the witnesses for their time. Sorry it was so late. I appreciate them coming in. Accidentally, we had them coming in the same week as the ICTU conference. That was a complete scheduling accident. This meeting was very engaging and well worthwhile.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: It did not affect the outcome on Sunday either.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Business of Select Committee (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I nominate Deputy Callaghan.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Criminal Justice (Terrorist Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2025: Committee Stage (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I have a similar amendment. It is not grouped with these. It is probably slightly different but not very much different. I support these amendments for all the reasons my colleagues have given. It would be more problematic for us as a country if we do not do this. I think the Minister would be asked why not. The public are not really interested in the intricacies of a Bill and an...

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Criminal Justice (Terrorist Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2025: Committee Stage (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I asked earlier, and the Minister did not respond in his comments, whether he is willing to work with this committee on some form of compromise that we as a justice committee, on behalf of the Oireachtas, could go to the Irish people with to state that we all feel the same way about this matter and that what we are willing to put into the legislation to ensure it reflects what the Irish...

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