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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We can ask for a clarification in relation to the last sentence in which the Department leaves the matter open-ended and states that the option will be available to use the service by the third quarter of next year. It could be interpreted a number of ways. We can ask why there will be an option and not a uniform electronic system within the Department. We can also ask when the Department...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We can get clarification on this. My understanding is that it pays rent or an annual fee for the infrastructure. It could be a fee for the 25 years-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: -----of €25 per pole. As the Deputy will know, Eir has been replacing many of the poles in the past two years in order to get ready for this. We can ask whether NBI carries a cost for replacing some of the existing infrastructure or upgrading it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: Like the Deputy, I was surprised that only 12% of the project will be new build. That was a bit of an eye-catcher. The other question that arises out of it is the annual cost for rent of existing infrastructure each year over the next 25 years. Is it being done as a cumulative cost over that period? If only 12% is going on new build, what is the €2.7 billion going on? How much of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: Does Deputy Catherine Murphy want to come back in now?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: I will let Deputy Carthy back in and then come back to Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: It has stated that those 679 primary schools will be done by the end of 2022.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We will try to wrap up the broadband part of it and then I can let the Deputy back in. There is an issue with the further remedial plan. We should ask it what the legacy issues are. Hopefully, we are not going back into a lockdown. If we are not going back into a lockdown, there should not be legacy issues. There may be issues with the supply chain or something. I know that in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy will recall that at one stage there was a plan for eight incinerators in eight separate regions. I remember a consultant's report that was circulated among the county councils back in 2004 and 2005 and set out the reasons for that. I am sure the Deputy saw that report as well. We are in a situation where the game will be up in respect of those three sites in eight years. There...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: It is my experience that the grant aid goes some way towards the overall cost but, normally, it does not cover it fully.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We will ask for clarification around the usage of the word "technical" in that respect. It might be referring to financial matters, but I doubt it. It looks to me like it is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: Okay. We will ask for clarification on that. Do any other members wish to come in? As regards the cover letter, in the final paragraph the Secretary General refers to comments I made during the afternoon session on 14 October after we had completed our engagement with the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications and specifically relating to the attendance of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We will have to start putting that in the invitations.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We included a note thus: "If you choose to attend from outside the Leinster House complex, in order to avoid technical difficulties, you are requested to do so from your office premises.". That has been sent to them. We will have to mention to invitees that they must ensure they have a good broadband connection. Next is No. 890B from Ms Laura Burke, Director General, Environmental...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We can deal with it now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: It is agreed that we will note and publish that correspondence. No. 893 is from Mr. Liam Sloyan, chief executive of the National Treatment Purchase Fund, NTPF, dated 15 November 2021. This item has also been flagged by Deputy Carthy. Is it agreed to note and publish this correspondence? Agreed. Does Deputy Carthy wish to comment?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We looked for an update on this report and the report concerning the costs and timelines for the national children's hospital from the Department on 18 October and issued a reminder earlier this month but there has been no response as of yet. It is proposed to provide Nursing Homes Ireland with an update. That is the situation with the Department. There has been no response on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We will do that. Next is category C correspondence, namely correspondence from and related to private individuals and any other correspondence. No. 881C is from Mr. Tadhg Daly, CEO of Nursing Homes Ireland, dated 9 November 2021, which we held over from last week. Deputy Munster flagged this correspondence but she is not present. Does anyone else wish to comment on the letter? It...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: I suggest that we raise it with the Department when its representatives are before us. Deputy Burke and others have raised previously the fact that there is no provision made for people who need a higher level of care.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 Nov 2021)

Brian Stanley: We can flag that matter for discussion when the witnesses are here.

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