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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Two other members have offered. I would ask them to be brief, if they can, in dealing with their issues.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Deputy Costello is next. Please be brief.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Will Mr. Healy allow Deputy Costello to continue?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Just to clarify a few points before we finish, did Mr. O'Brien say that it was for 23 years that Ann was in-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: It is 23 years, then.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Okay. Mr. O'Brien said the HSE lacks formal authority to intervene with a private citizen, in the case of requesting them to stop using the home.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: I understand it, but did Mr. O'Brien ever then contact the Department of Health and explain the type of legislation that might be needed in this regard?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Yes or no, Mr. Healy. Do not go wandering off.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: He did not do it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Does the Department of Health consider, having listened to all of this, that there is need for further legislation in this area?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: I brought to your attention, Mr. O'Brien, the fact that the HSE was told locally about Ann and that the social workers asked that the necessary steps be taken to protect her. They were that concerned. This was in 2009. She was still there in 2013. Have you details of that?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: That is a fact, that the HSE was asked to take the necessary steps and obviously did not, because Ann was still there in 2013. The necessary steps to protect her were highlighted.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: What action was taken? Why did four years lapse?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Was the Department of Health alerted to this issue at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Healy familiar with-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Healy familiar with a type 2 payment arrangement?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: To go back to Grace, a type 2 arrangement was entered into where her disability allowance would have been paid to the foster home, and for that the foster home would give an undertaking that she would be cared for, the money would be looked after, a special account would be opened and so on. Was that type 2 arrangement entered into by the health board or the HSE at the time?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: I know what you said earlier on.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: What I am pointing out to Mr. Healy is-----

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