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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: That sounds great. This person, namely, the national director of quality and patient safety, was written to on 24 November 2014 and the detail of the issues was outlined. It was intimated that should the director be interested in hearing about the experience of the people in question as whistleblowers, the director should contact them. However, there was no reply; nothing; zilch. I have a...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Is there a minute available regarding that decision? While I understand I cannot get it today, is there a note that informs Mr. O'Brien why that group of three saw fit to leave Grace where she was and ignore her rights?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Can you say that substantial information stands up their decision to leave Grace there?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Are you satisfied they made the right decision?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: A simple "yes" or "no" will do, Mr. O'Brien.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: If I treated little dogs, Mr. O'Brien, they way those people were treated, I would be arrested.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Mr. O'Brien, I think you know what Deputy McDonald means and to answer her with that remark is not treating the issue seriously.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: This is how many-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Deputy McDonald has asked a question and Mr. O'Brien is about to take Mr. Healy's lead and go on with the nonsense.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: I am asking you to please answer the question that Deputy McDonald has asked.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Mr. O'Brien, you and the members have been here since 12 o'clock. I am suggesting that we take a break for half an hour. Before we suspend, I want to put two things on record for this part of the meeting. In 2009, the HSE was told about the risk to Ann and was asked to take the necessary and reasonable steps to protect her. That is a fact. She was still there in 2013. In respect of...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy Dowds.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Did he take your advice?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Two other members have offered. I would ask them to be brief, if they can, in dealing with their issues.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Deputy Costello is next. Please be brief.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Will Mr. Healy allow Deputy Costello to continue?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Just to clarify a few points before we finish, did Mr. O'Brien say that it was for 23 years that Ann was in-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: It is 23 years, then.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: Okay. Mr. O'Brien said the HSE lacks formal authority to intervene with a private citizen, in the case of requesting them to stop using the home.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John McGuinness: I understand it, but did Mr. O'Brien ever then contact the Department of Health and explain the type of legislation that might be needed in this regard?

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