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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Yes, but allow Ms Hardiman to finish.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I thank the Ms Hardiman. I have given leeway to try to get a back-and-forth discussion among the witnesses. I have not given anyone additional time but trying to run this meeting as best as possible. Deputy Lahart is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I have to move on. I apologise for cutting Dr. Goldman off midstream.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Can we finish up now Deputy Shortall?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I will take Deputy Paul Murphy next and we might then take a break.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I propose a break in the committee's proceedings for ten minutes. I will bring in the non-members of the committee to speak when we finish. I thank all of our contributors.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I welcome the discussion on the invoice. A number of questions were asked by Deputy Cullinane earlier and we were told it was part of the inquiry and we could not go down that road. We got a few answers on the procurement process and on whether they came in through that process. Next on the list is Deputy McNamara. He has ten minutes, but he does not have to take ten minutes, and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Let the discussion flow, if the witness wants to continue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Before we off the subject, Dr. Goldman mentioned there were three items there, one of which was on the inquiries into safety. Surely one would imagine that the whole idea of sterilisation would be fairly high with regard to the safety aspect, particularly in view of the reoccurring infections and so on? I would have thought that for any group coming in, one of the key things would be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I am low on time but there is the question of the optics. They are getting their photograph with the new national children's hospital but clearly what they are over for is to look at this particular problem that is reoccurring for these children. I think the optics of it were wrong, and the fact that they have not done it. That is another reason why the families feel very frustrated about...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Senator Clonan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: There are a number of questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Senator Clonan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Let the witnesses respond. Senator Clonan asked a number of questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Senator Clonan. Please allow the witnesses to respond to some of the questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I have not interrupted. The Senator has ten minutes. I ask the witnesses to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: Senator Clonan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I have to move on to other members.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Spinal Surgery Issues at Children's University Hospital Temple Street: Children's Health Ireland (28 Sep 2023)

Seán Crowe: I am moving on.

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