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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I am not talking about €20 or €50 or anything like that. I am talking about large events, publications or large gatherings involving the Garda. When it comes to the issue of the management of property, I understood that Deputy Commissioner Ó Cualáin was appointed to put structures in place and a modernisation programme to ensure property was protected. In terms of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: We are talking about how equipment that is valuable to this organisation and is owned by it, such as files, IT equipment, computers or data storage mechanisms. As part of the modernisation process I had understood that Deputy Commissioner Ó Cualáin was put in charge of making sure protocols were put in place to maintain this information in order that none of it could ever go...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I am specifically asking about assets. This is the Committee for Public Accounts. It is not always about figures. I am asking about assets.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: This is an important question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: IT equipment, data storage mechanisms and mobile phones change. Where are the historical systems maintained? Are they maintained properly and have they been maintained over recent years? These do not just have asset value on the books. There is also the value of public information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: And it has been working perfectly for the last number of years.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is good to know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Hear, hear.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I spoke earlier about consultancy and Accenture. Did any major supplier to the Garda sponsor the recent chiefs of police conference held in Dublin?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: So Accenture sponsored the conference?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Will Ms O'Sullivan come back with the value of what Accenture contributed and the breakdown of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: When it comes to the telephone liaison unit how much funding goes into it, what does it do, and how many staff does it have? Has that changed in recent times?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Surely, given that it was in Ireland, the association would have worked with the Garda? Ms O'Sullivan can come back to us about it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Fine. Ms O'Sullivan can try her best.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I said that Ms O'Sullivan can try her best.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: How many people are in the unit? Has the volume of people in the unit changed in recent times? What is the budget for the unit? There is an overspend here and I want to get to the bottom of it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: There is an overspend of €1.2 million on communications in total. I understand that most of it is nothing to do with this, but I want to know if there have been any changes with regard to how this unit operates in the last number of years. Have there been changes in the volume of staff, and will Ms O'Sullivan - not here, but through her conduit, Mr. Joseph Nugent - give us a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: We did not know that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: So it is not part of the Garda's spend at all?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: My three questions, which Ms O'Sullivan can come back to me on, are these. One is whether the spend on the unit has changed, the second is what the structure of the unit is, and if it has changed in the last years, and the third - which is very important - is if any protocols for how that unit operates have changed in the last number of years.

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