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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: What is the potential for a solution here?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: The end of 2015.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: That does not make it right.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: How long would one have to work in the private sector to pay taxes of €105,000 per year? That is what it comes down to. It is taxpayers' money in all of these cases and there should be a greater degree of urgency around the management of those properties. This is something that we can revisit. In terms of staffing at the various OPW sites, is there agreement with the unions...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Has the OPW reduced the number of groundsmen and staff?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Is the OPW moving more towards the private sector in the context of security?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Kilkenny Castle is a major heritage site attracting large numbers of visitors but there is only one groundsman employed there. I would urge the Minister of State to examine that and let me know the reason for it. Is that also the case with other sites? Is it the OPW's intention to recruit additional staff to fill any vacancies that may exist?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: I wish to refer now to the issue of Durrow Castle. When the OPW makes a grant available for restoration works, how does it carry forward that money if it is not used in a given year but will be used in the following year? Is there a figure in the Estimates which refers to grants that have not been spent but that will be spent in the future? How is the drawdown of these grants arranged?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: That is the usual answer from officials and Ministers who do not want to get into the detail of these things. I am just asking a question, namely, where a grant has been approved by a Minister in the past but the money has not been drawn down, where does that appear in the Department's books?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: No. Somebody here should know the answer. The Minister of State has four officials with him. I appreciate that he is new to his role but there must be someone who can provide an answer to this question. These are the Estimates and I want to know if they include the payment of a grant to a particular organisation. Where is the figure for that grant in the books?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: I thought that the Minister of State would be telling me that. It is his Department that prepares the books. There is only one grant in the book of Estimates and that is the Glasnevin Cemetery grant. However, a grant was announced for a particular project. We do not even have to know the particulars of that project. I am asking where the payment of that grant is accounted for in the book...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: This was an announcement about grants. Therefore, it should have been in the Book of Estimates because it has not been drawn down. It might date back to a previous Minister's time but the fact is that these Estimates must reflect that in some way.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Where is that in the Estimate?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: How much did the OPW spend?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Did OPW spend the funding on it?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: What is happening with the rest of the funding that was allocated?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: In layman's language, that is a disagreement.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: I ask the Minister of State to intervene in this matter because there are potential costs to the State. It is not reflected in the Estimates, but it is a potential cost, whether legal or compensatory, to the State and it needs to be sorted out. Going down that legal route is one step beyond common sense. The Minister of State, Deputy Canney, wants to bring change to that Department and I...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2016
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Jun 2016)

John McGuinness: Is there no immediate response, as there was for damaged properties with the Irish Red Cross fund, etc.? In terms of the funds that have not been used, is there any funding left?

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