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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has three minutes left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: I want to stop proceedings for a minute. Deputy Hourigan has three minutes left. There is a problem with Mr. Collins's microphone. It is causing interference and there is also a problem with the volume. He might adjust it a little. I apologise for the interruption.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has gone over time. I will try to get her back in for a second round of questions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has half a minute left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The subject the Deputy is raising with Ms Forbes, to be fair, was not on the invitation. I appreciate it is an issue of concern. I suggest that if Ms Forbes does not have the answer this morning, she would give the Deputy a written reply in the coming weeks, if that is satisfactory.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: We have gone over time. I ask Mr. Collins to fix his microphone as the sound quality is poor and there is a lot of interference.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: As Deputy Alan Dillon is not available, I call Deputy Paul McAuliffe.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Apologies have been received from Deputy Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy’s time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Thank you, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy's time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is over time. I call Deputy Sherlock.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Sherlock has ten minutes. We will break for ten minutes after that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: There are two minutes left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will take a break for ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: We are back in public session.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is over time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: I ask members to signal to me if they want to contribute on a second round of questions. I have a question for Ms Forbes in regard to the total wage bill at RTÉ. From the information supplied, I understand wages amount to €123 million, social welfare payments, PRSI and so forth amount to €13 million, pension costs are €13 million and €23 million is paid to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is 56%. I was not too far out. I have a question on the overall financial position, which Ms O'Shea may wish to answer. It has been stated that income has fallen more than €100 million in the past six years and costs have gone up in the region of €30 million. The yield to the company from the sale of land was approximately €100 million. I listened to the replies...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33: Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Programme E - Broadcasting
(20 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will keep the discussion concise. Given that a statute of limitations does not apply to an investigation by that Department, I find it hard to understand that RTÉ's financial section at this stage would not be doing some calculations as to the possible implications of that. We are talking about a substantial sum of money. In the context of a decline in income and the organisation...

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