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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: And then, obviously-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But the auditors had flagged up a concern about the payments.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Collins raised it with the director general. He did not question her pretty much; he took on board what she said.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Yes. As chief financial officer, Mr. Collins thought it was grand and that he would tell Deloitte what the story was and go from there. That is what he is saying.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Yes. Would Mr. Collins say he is not effectively doing his job?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: That Mr. Collins cannot remember.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: It is just so ridiculous I am going to move on. The commercial director, Ms Geraldine O'Leary, told me yesterday that she could not remember the precise detail on the headings of the invoices she raised. She could not remember whether it related to consultancy fees. I imagine she is extremely diligent. Did she check between then and now? She could not remember the exact detail.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But she checked that out.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: So, who advised?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Knowing she was coming in here today, Ms O'Leary did not check between yesterday and today to have the answer for us whether it was Noel Kelly or the director general. She knew she was coming in here. Has she notes? She had a meeting with Ryan Tubridy's agent. She had a conference call with him in March 2022 or prior to that when the raising of the invoices was suggested or discussed. Is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But Ms O'Leary did not seek to find the information between yesterday and today.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: However, Ms O'Leary had that meeting with Noel Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: A conference call.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Ms O'Leary knows what I mean. A conference call is a meeting. She had that. She reckons it was either Noel Kelly or the director general who advised her to put "consultancy fees" down but she did not question that or say they were not consultancy fees. During the conversation with Noel Kelly, he would have said to Ms O'Leary what the invoices were for.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: And what did he say they were for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: In the conversation Ms O'Leary had with Noel Kelly when he was seeking to have the invoices raised, what did he tell her the invoices were for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Now, come on, be truthful.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: What did he tell Ms O'Leary the invoices were for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Ms O'Leary was having a conversation with Noel Kelly about raising invoices but she did not know what the invoices were for.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Seriously.

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