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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: On the audit opinion, how many times have we raised the issue of non-compliant procurement by the HSE? There are several issues on which we have shone a light in terms of the presentation of accounts. The Chairman gave the example of one aspect of the HSE accounts and how the Department or the Minister presents them. The committee has been quite good on the issue of the late presentation...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Will the Chair remind us of what was left out?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: If he is coming in, I ask that we also include procurement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: I must apologise but I will not be here for the opening statements as I have another meeting. I do not like missing the opening statement and then coming in afterwards as it is possible to repeat what the first speaker has said, but it cannot be helped.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: I welcome Dr. Lynch and his team. I apologise if any of my questions was asked earlier. Will Dr. Lynch explain what the national childcare investment programme is, when it started, and what it does?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: What was the total cost of the programme?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Out of that €178 million, 847 different childcare facilities were awarded funds under the programme. Is that figure correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: How many of those would have been private facilities?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: My figure is that out of the 847 childcare facilities which benefited from that fund, 501 were private. Has the Department undertaken any analysis of how many of those are still in operation today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: The reason I asked for this information is that there was a parliamentary question on how many of these facilities were still in operation. The response was “it is not possible to provide an accurate number of services that received funding under the NCIP, both community and private, that remain in operation to this day”. Why is that? Is it because it is information the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: From a process and procedures point, there is a commission of investigation in place regarding mother and baby homes. Obviously, it is independent and must do its work. However, there is much public concern about the commission’s refusal to release information to affected family members on where their relatives are buried. I have spoken to some family members who say it is painful...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: I fully accept everything Dr. Lynch said but given the matter is a source of public commentary, and some relatives have raised concerns about it, has the Department any idea why the commission refuses to release the information to family members? Nobody has been given any indication as to the rationale behind it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: I fully accept that it is a quasi-court, that it is independent, and that it would be inappropriate for the Department or anybody to intervene directly in the work of the commission. I have no difficulty with that but there seems to be a fundamental issue for the families involved. If there are lines of communication between the Department and the commission, perhaps there could be an...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: An issue that is not directly related to the Department but that has a direct bearing on children is child homelessness. What engagement and interaction is there between the Department and the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government in respect of the issue? The figures have increased steadily. There was a marginal decrease in the rate of child homelessness in the most recent...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Are some homeless children not included in the figures presented by the Department? My understanding is that the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government presents homelessness figures that include people in emergency accommodation in the main. Are there children under the watch of the Department of Children and Youth Affairs who would be classed as homeless? I refer to children...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Dr. Lynch referred to "all children". Under what category do they fit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: When the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government categorises children as homeless, does it seek information from the Department of Children and Youth Affairs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

David Cullinane: Is the Department satisfied that the overall figures capture child homelessness in its entirety?

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