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Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: I am happy and honoured to second the motion. It is appropriate that we are taking it now. This was a victory for democracy in the House today, which is rare and unusual. I compliment all those who had the courage to vote in favour of democracy. What is being done against this House is a serious matter. Also, it is being done by someone who has never been a Member of this House. I do...

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Think about it - every single lever is in the possession of the Coalition. I did not know they controlled the Judiciary also, but I thank the Senator for letting me know that.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: It is important from a democratic point of view that this House remains a dissenting voice, particularly because we face these economic problems. I sit on the Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, of which I was a founder member with our current President Michael D. Higgins. He was a Member of this House as was W.B. Yeats and another President, Mary Robinson. As we sit here, a Bill...

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: That is a disgrace.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: I pity the Leader for it.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Let us do it.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: The Senator now rues the order in which he did so.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: They were two good choices regardless of the order.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Of course not.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: You have had plenty of time to arrange it.

Seanad: Seanad Reform: Motion (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Strike a blow for Seanad Éireann.

Seanad: Business of Seanad (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: There is a Minister waiting.

Seanad: Business of Seanad (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: On a point of order, I believe that wittingly or unwittingly, the Leader has misled the House. A Minister is available. There must be, because there must be a Minister to take the debate that had been scheduled.

Seanad: Business of Seanad (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Debates often have been taken when the relevant Minister is not available with no response from the Leader.

Seanad: Business of Seanad (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: This is not true and the record will show there is no obstacle to this but the Leader now is trying to frighten-----

Seanad: Business of Seanad (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: Does he have the power to exclude the Minister if the latter is willing to take part in the debate?

Seanad: Business of Seanad (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: If there is no other Minister available, the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, could not be more suitable.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: On a point of order, I ask the Cathaoirleach to show leniency to Senator Healy Eames, who apparently called publicly for anyone who is not a leader and who speaks on more than one issue to be silenced for one month.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Jun 2012)

David Norris: I give him due praise for that. I raised a different question.

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