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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: I want to bring this matter to a conclusion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will conclude. Just to be correct or precise about it, the last published appropriation accounts are the 2016 accounts which were published by the Comptroller and Auditor General at the end of September last year. The ones for 2017 will not be published until Friday week, well into the campaign. We are not waiting beyond that. The last set of figures we are going on are the 2016...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The point is that the 2016 accounts, which are the last ones we have in front of us, refer to the fact that the audit committee is not there. Arising from that, it has been put in place. While the Comptroller and Auditor General and the committee might be aware of it, the public has only been made aware of it through this letter which has come as a result of our indication that we may wish...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are not having a discussion about this. When the Accounting Officer is here, the committee can ask him that question. I am of the view that we will not have any questions in respect of the President at all. This is important and I want to put this in the public arena because it might not be fully appreciated, even though it is a matter on the public record. There is a discussion...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am dealing with that and I am bringing the matter to a conclusion now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am drawing the discussion to a conclusion. This committee has never in the past or will never in the future allow its work to be dictated by timings of elections. In the previous Dáil, the committee met right up until, and including, the day of the dissolution when an election was imminent within weeks. The Committee of Public Accounts does not stop its work because elections are...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is it seconded?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the Secretary General to make the necessary arrangements and the timing as best he can.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The proposal is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: I read out the proposal. Having considered Mr. Fraser's letter of 17 September, the committee has decided he does not require legal advice in the matter and will, on Tuesday, 25 September, proceed to examine the 2016 Appropriation Accounts - Vote 1 - President's Establishment. Is that agreed?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is that agreed? Agreed. The proposal is carried. We will write to the Secretary General of the Department of the Taoiseach, in his role as Accounting Officer, to attend the meeting with the committee to discuss the Vote on the President's Establishment for next Tuesday. The next item relates to CervicalCheck. The committee will deal with the work programme issues and will hold over...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Some time will be allowed if people want to talk about CervicalCheck.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: What is the proposal for next week's schedule? Where should the committee start?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Another practical reason for holding over next Thursday's meeting is that the director general of the HSE, John Connaghan, must leave by 12 o'clock because he has a meeting in Scotland with the Scottish Minister for Health and the Irish Minister for Health about the implementation of Sláintecare.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: He would have to leave at 12 o'clock in any event. The chief executive of the State Claims Agency who is handling the case is on leave. He booked it before we set this schedule. There were going to be gaps next Thursday, one way or the other. We will have a detailed discussion. Maybe the secretariat will liaise with Deputy Kelly, because he is on the health committee, to ensure that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, to ensure the two committees do not duplicate work. We will hold that meeting over for the moment until a precise scoping exercise has been done as to what we will do and let the health committee do its important work as well. At next Thursday's meeting, there may not be any witnesses. It might be an opportune time to clear all the correspondence that we are not going to do today.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: There is a couple of hours' work in that. Some of it will be very interesting. There are issues about health and a lot of other things. The public will be very interested in relation to some of the correspondence that has come in over the summer.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The committee has two previous periodic reports. There are detailed responses now from the Minister for Finance and for Public Expenditure and Reform. There is a lot of stuff for public debate in our correspondence. That meeting on health can be held over and the committee can deal with the backlog of correspondence from the summer. That is great. Staff in the secretariat have been...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: There is so much in the work programme that we did not know where to begin.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Department of Education and Skills.

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