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Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: That needs to happen. We will take a sos now for ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The next speaker is Deputy James O'Connor, who, I know, is rushing from another engagement. If the Deputy O'Connor is not on the call yet, Deputy Munster is next.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has two minutes left.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy. Her time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. I thank Ms Graham. I ask that she comes back to us with the figures on that.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy O'Connor has ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Departmental officials are present if the Deputy wants to address the question to them.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Sherlock has joined us.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: If members want to come back in for a second round, I ask them to indicate if they are not in the room. I have some questions.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: My apologies, I thought the Deputy was finished.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have a couple of questions. In relation to the DART+, BusConnects and MetroLink, I read through the briefing notes yesterday that the NTA sent along. I thank Ms Graham for them. There is €46 million spent so far on DART+. There is fleet money there but I am not counting that. I am talking about spending on developing the project. On BusConnects, there is €89 million...

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: In addition to the €223 million, are we talking about another €223 million to get to the stage where there will be shovels in the ground? Will it be another €100 million? Is there a budget for those three projects?

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Would Mr. Creegan accept that some of those projects have a long way to go before there will be shovels in the ground?

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Could Mr. Creegan come back to us with a figure for the preparation budget for the three projects? I would like to move on to electric vehicles, EVs. The 46,615 in the State. Approximately 21,000 were bought in the first 11 months of last year according to the figures that we have. In the Dublin area, 9,816 were bought in that 11-month period in 2021. There are 159 charging points in...

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Will Ms Graham comment from an NTA point of view and an overall transport management point of view as to whether this makes good sense? I see some of these vehicles on the road. These are big cars that are doing short journeys.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Perhaps Ms Brogan from the Department might give a brief comment on that.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Will it look at the issue of the large vehicles?

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: We have them here.

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Please do, if that could be examined. We are supposed to try to reduce carbon emissions but the emissions being created in manufacturing these massive jeeps or Jaguars, mostly used for short journeys in and around cities where there is already public transport, does not make sense while people in rural areas have neither public transport nor the option of a modest-sized EV, which most of us...

Public Accounts Committee: National Transport Authority: Financial Statements 2020 (27 Jan 2022)

Brian Stanley: Will Ms Graham get back to me on that?

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