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Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I appreciate the long-standing tradition that the Attorney General's advice is not laid before the House. The Minister has clarified that these questions have been put to the Attorney General.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendments Nos. 20 and 21 are related and may be discussed together.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendment No. 13 stands. Amendment No. 15 will be withdrawn.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: We are dealing with amendments Nos. 13, 14 and 15 which are related so we are discussing them together. I understand that amendment No. 15 will be withdrawn when we reach it.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Theoretically one partner in government could call an inquiry into another partner in government.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I will take that as the Deputy's final comment on the amendment. How stands the amendment?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendments Nos. 13 to 15, inclusive, are being discussed together, Deputy, if you wish to discuss them as well.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Before I invite Deputy Mary Lou McDonald to speak I will offer some observations. Any committee report that requires a vote to get over the line is diminished. I have never been involved in a committee process, either in Opposition or in Government, in which we have voted something through. Perhaps the Minister will clarify the position. It is not that there are recommendations as such,...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: You would be open to-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I will bring the Minister back in after Deputy Mary Lou McDonald.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I wish to add my tuppence worth again. I remember when I and Deputy Fleming were on a committee that he chaired. There were diverging views on a particular recommendation, which was to do with the personal public service number registration system. Everyone had strong views on it but they were not views of the same bent. In that case the committee's recommendation noted that there was no...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I will note it as withdrawn when we come to it.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendment No. 15 is being withdrawn.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Is Deputy Donnelly indicating?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: We will leave section 18 until we arrive at it.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendment No. 13 is in the name of Deputy Stephen Donnelly. Amendments Nos. 13 to 15, inclusive, are related and will be discussed together.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: We will leave it until then.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendment No. 9 is in the name of the Minister. Amendments Nos. 9 and 11 are related and may be discussed together.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendments Nos. 12,17 and 18 are related and may be discussed together.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (5 Jun 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: We will retain that ruling for the remainder of the evening.

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