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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: It does seem that the climate action plan is quite weak regarding the role of the RSA and An Garda Síochána. It is not a connection that would obviously be made but non-enforcement has a climate impact. We can say it in this committee that they should do their job but they have their priorities as well. Unless it is called out very strongly in the climate action plan, they will...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: Thank you Senator.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: We will let the Minister answer without any interruptions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: We will let the Minister answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: Senator, it does not work like this if you are to keep interrupting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: The Senator has had quite a bit of time so-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: If we go into a second round, I will bring the Senator back in again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: We will go to Deputy Whitmore.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: I want to ask about transport-oriented development. I get a train from Limerick each week as the Minister knows. I see how the train service is essentially promoting high-density and high-quality development in Portlaoise, Thurles and other places. The plan's annex of actions in respect of transport includes one stating, "Advance an Integrated Spatial Planning and Sustainable Transport...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: I thank the Minister for that response. As he identified, it is not just the centre that is very important; there must also be high-density development around multiple nodes. I accept Cork has potential for it too, but in Limerick the potential is very significant. There is a kind of cart-before-the-horse element to the transport strategy where it says we will provide for these stations...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: Yes, I would say it cannot be just the centre because then the rail system will not work. It needs to be where there is provision for the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: There is a lot of land on the Limerick to Limerick Junction line at Ballysimon and again on the Limerick to Foynes line at Raheen and Dooradoyle and further out in Patrickswell and Adare. I will not press the Minister on it but he might consider in the next iteration of the climate action plan to make special provision for Limerick, given the potential that exists. It states that the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: I must interrupt Senator Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: I thank Senator Higgins. We must finish by 11.30 a.m. so we have 20 minutes remaining and two members wish to come back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: The agenda is the climate action plan. Is the question relevant to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: That point has been made. All of us in the committee have been guilty during the meeting of being parochial. Time is limited, so the Minister might respond to the Deputy's point as succinctly as he can.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: Am I correct in saying this does not relate to the climate action plan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: The climate action plan does not deal with aviation emissions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Climate Action Plan 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Mar 2023)

Brian Leddin: When rolling out chargers across the country, we must be careful that they do not induce driving. The availability of parking induces driving. In town and city centres, there is a lesser need for driving and car ownership due to a greater provision of public transport. I feel strongly that the Department's approach must be to recognise who needs EVs and chargers the most. Otherwise, we...

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