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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: It is a bad time to find out now, is it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Everybody accepts an invitation to the Committee of Public Accounts. Perhaps the word "invitation" is incorrect.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome the witnesses to Leinster House again today. On the opening statements, I welcome the change in tone from RTÉ today and the emphasis, obviously, on the deceptive nature of the transaction. I hope it is a company with greater transparency, not only here today but in the forthcoming weeks and months. The impact of this, as we have seen ourselves with journalists and other...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: From that point, Mr. Collins has said that he was concerned with the barter account. Yet he proceeded with it. Are there any other invoices or accounts that Mr. Collins has made payments to, substantial payments such as the €75,000, about which he has had concerns but that have been paid out, and which to this day he is not certain as to the origin or the necessity of those payments?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Is Mr. Collins certain, as the chief financial officer for the organisation, that there are no other similar payments, or payments to contractors, to employees, payments to subordinates within RTÉ or to those who supply services to RTÉ? Are there any such similar payments being made or arrangements having been made? Obviously, payments are being made in all sorts of other ways.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: You are not 100% certain.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Given the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: From now?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: But for credit notes it was just signed off, right? It is not a great system, as one can appreciate.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: It comes back to finance though does it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: With regard to the auditors, how long have they served as auditors for the organisation? How often would the organisation change auditors?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: How long had they served?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome Ms O'Leary. I will ask Ms O'Leary about the information we gained yesterday on when people found out about what, when and who. Ms O'Leary is head of the audit and risk committee. The revelation yesterday was that the information was found on 16 March. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: When did it come before the audit and risk committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: So you had a meeting on St. Patrick's Day did you?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I understand. How come it took those three months for the Grant Thornton report to be completed?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Is this March?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Cormac Devlin: That is why it took the three months.

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