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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: At the meeting the last day, we asked the official from the Department of Finance, Mr. Carville, whether there was a reference to the Committee of Public Accounts in connection with this case from the Office of the Chief State Solicitor without any consultation with us in respect of our views on that matter. That was the matter we wanted clarified last week. Will we put that in writing in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will address the query to the Secretary General rather than the official. The clerk tells me we have already asked for that as a result of last week's meeting. It is done.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Are we okay on this topic?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Where do we go from here?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is in our report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have got that. Everything the Deputy said will be on the transcript.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We move now to the next item of correspondence, namely, No. 1495 from Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General of the Department of Education and Skills, on the points we raised in our periodic reports in previous meetings on the contribution from religious congregations towards the costs incurred by the State in responding to child abuse in residential institutions. It is an...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The figure of 53% refers to both agreements. The figure for the 2009 agreement is 71%.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is a figure of €4.2 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: There was property valued at €4.2 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The figure is €249 million. It is on the chart under the heading "to be realised". In essence, the Comptroller and Auditor General is saying the whole redress scheme cost about €1.5 billion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: The total offered by the religious institutions was €480 million, of which €227 million has actually been realised and paid over. Some €254 million has still not been received.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: To date. A further €253 million has been promised but not yet handed over. That is the second big issue. We have dealt with this matter. It has been going on for years. It crops up every so often and we just want it concluded. It is money due to the State.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We said we would write back in ten days' time - after the end of September - for confirmation that all the dates given in respect of it being handed over this weekend have been dealt with and, if not, why that is the case. We will be writing separately in January for confirmation on all the commitments given in respect of the end of the year. If one read what I have in front of me, one...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I see the detail.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: It might have been the council. I will ask Seán Ó Foghlú separately to specify the position in respect of that final property. The heading is "Current/Proposed Use", and he gives the details of what is planned. There are costs involved in all of that, so I will ask him who is dealing with it and from where it comes. We can deal with the matter separately. No. 1496B is...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is a special job in itself. There are different motorways throughout the country. I suspect everyone will have a close look at the motorway that relates to his or her own geographic area. If we did that among ourselves, we would probably cover them all. We will note and publish that large file of documentation. I do not know how much is in it or the conclusions. There are 546...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Sep 2018)

Seán Fleming: We raised this previously. The money goes into the company's revenue. It is treated as revenue in terms of corporation tax but I believe the private sector toll booths are subject to VAT. There is a VAT issue in respect of the private operators and an element of that would have to go through VAT.

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