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Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: Yes.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I move amendment No. 9: In page 10, between lines 17 and 18, to insert the following: "(e) by inserting the following subsection after subsection (9): "(10) Where the Court is satisfied that a particular licensed premises has, on an application for a special exemption order, made a particular case for an additional extension of the time during which intoxicating liquor may be sold on that...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I move amendment No. 10: In page 10, line 29, to delete "container;" and substitute the following: "container. All such containers must carry a clearly identifiable mark indicating the specific address and location of the point of purchase;". Senator Norris in proposing this amendment is seeking to ensure that containers or bottles of alcohol carry an identifiable mark which would indicate...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I am grateful for the Minister of State's views and clarity on the matter.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: It is on the Order Paper.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: On a point of order, if I understood what Senator O'Donovan said, he believes that if there had been a problem it would have been voted down. If I heard him correctly it exposes the farce of this entire procedure.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I have not tabled an amendment to section 19. My issue is with the thrust of the section as it stands. It is the section that aims to insert two new sections, sections 8A and 8B, into the Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 1994. I am concerned about inserting new offences and new powers for the Garda into an Act that is already quite draconian in its content. While I have a concern about...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I support Senator Norris's amendment, which is in keeping with the spirit of the legislation in its positive sense. It seeks to achieve a proper regulation of premises selling alcohol, which is what we are all seeking to do. We may disagree on how best that regulation would be achieved and the particular issues around restrictions, opening times and so on. We are all in favour of proper...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I support Senator Regan's amendment and concur with Senator Quinn's comments. In essence, Senator Regan seeks to do what the Minister has promised to do in any case. It is another unfortunate consequence of the decision to rush through the legislation that the Government's amendment does not reflect the reality of what the Minister has agreed, whereas Senator Regan's amendment, which I...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: That is agreed, although I will address each of the amendments separately. Amendments Nos. 8 and 8a are similar in their effect but amendment No. 9 is rather different. I am happy to discuss them together but it is clear that they will have to be considered separately.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: That is fine.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: It is unfortunate that the legislation is being rushed in this way. The confusion surrounding the grouping of amendments and the way in which the procedure relating to them has been operated is most unfortunate. We would have liked more time in which to deal with these amendments.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: I move amendment No. 8: In page 10, lines 4 and 5, to delete paragraph (c) and substitute the following: "(c) by substituting the following subsection for subsection (5): "A special exemption order shall expire not earlier than 2.30 a.m. on any day of the week unless the Court, for stated reasons including reasons related to maintaining public order, considers it expedient to grant the order...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: That is not the point.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: As Senator White has said, this amendment is not just about public order but about public policy, and not just public policy as it relates to the consumption of intoxicating liquor but as it relates to socialising and social culture generally. Thus, it has a considerable impact. I may have sounded frivolous earlier when I mentioned dancing and so on, but it is a serious matter. In order to...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: The Minister of State went to the wrong club.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: While this issue already has been debated at some length during the discussion on amendment No. 12a, I also support this amendment because it is important to have a system of sequential closing. Clearly, this would address the problems associated with the current system in which large numbers of people are disgorged onto the streets at the same time. However, a more comprehensive reform is...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: We are concerned. We are not speaking for the nightclub industry.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: Like Senator Alex White, I will respond to the Minister of State's point that Senators on this side are seeking to delay the Bill and do not have concerns about the problems associated with alcohol abuse. As many of us stated during the Second Stage debate yesterday, while we are very concerned about these problems, we do not believe the Bill is an effective means of tackling them. On the...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2008: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2008)

Ivana Bacik: While I do not wish to prolong the debate on the amendment, in the interests of fairness I must respond to the Minister of State's comments which misinterpreted what I said. I did not say regulations on the advertising, sale and supply of alcohol do not have an impact on consumption. Clearly, such regulations have an impact and I have argued in the House that the Government should restrict...

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