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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Excuse me, but I asked a specific question about the actual agreement. I respect the aspirations of the people involved, but has it been Brexit-proofed, given that it was signed after the referendum had taken place? Does the SLA include a section which deals specifically with Brexit? If it does not, that is fair enough, but I would be surprised if does not. If there is, I ask Mr. O'Connor...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: What is the basis for Mr. O'Connor's confidence? I would not be confident and certainly would not be confident, given that the SLA does not include a reference to Brexit, perhaps one of the biggest things to happen in the health area in the North. If it is not stipulated in the SLA, from where does Mr. O'Connor derive his confidence that everything will be grand? The view of people living...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Was the SLA not signed subsequently?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Can we get a copy of the SLA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: I think it was signed after the Brexit referendum. I understand the MOU was signed a while ago, but it contains all sorts of information on the development of the service. However, the SLA is specific to service delivery and it would be useful for us to see it. In the future all SLAs with a North-South dimension will need to be Brexit-proofed. That would allow people to say they were...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Mr. Goodman does not yet have the data on the extent to which we were reliant on the NHS to treat people in 2016.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: One of my questions relates to the extent to which are we are reliant on the NHS-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Let me finish. The answer I have been given is that the Department is speculating. We are discussing the implications of Brexit. The first action that should be taken is an analysis of the extent to which the cross-border directive, which may not survive Brexit, is contributing to the HSE's work. When will Mr. Goodman have data on the extent to which the rest of the NHS is picking up the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: It is particularly bizarre in the context of Brexit, since that is what we are discussing, but the data are not available.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: When was it requested?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: This goes to the heart of the issue I was trying to get at. It does not appear that advance planning is being carried out to any great extent. The Department waited for the committee to invite officials to discuss Brexit before seeking information from the HSE. If the Department was being proactive, with the greatest of respect to the officials, surely they should have that information....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implcations for Health Sector of United Kingdom's Withdrawal from the EU: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: The specific figures and the breakdown are important and Mr. Goodman has just indicated that they were not sought until the officials were notified that they would be before the committee. I am not putting words in anyone's mouth because that is exactly what was said. If they are as proactive and confident as Mr. O'Connor claims, they will be to deal with this. That information would have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: I wish everyone a very happy International Women's Day. We often talk in this Parliament about the provision of abortion services for women. Some like to think that this is a country where we do not have abortion. Of course we do. Women have abortions every day of the week. They mostly travel to England to do so because they cannot avail of services here. We would be foolish to suggest...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Thousands of Irishwomen-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: I have a brief comment. The Chairman is very kind to indulge me. Ms O'Connor would be well aware of this but I will say it for the benefit of our visitor. A somewhat distorted picture of the reality of our maternity services was painted there and I can speak with a small degree of confidence as somebody who has used the maternity services in this country and seen my daughter use those...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Less than what?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: These people have come before the committee at our request.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: I apologise, but we acceded to their request and they are here because it has been facilitated. The National Women's Council speaks for me on most issues and I do not believe its funding structure is a matter for the Joint Committee on Health. I note people getting very exercised on the issue of abortion who are never exercised about any other aspect of women's health care. It all comes...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: Surely the UN will not be making the law for this State when hopefully we repeal the eighth amendment and get a chance to have a grown-up discussion in our Parliament about women's access to a full range of health and reproductive rights. Presumably, while the UN might have a view it would be up to each member state, as it were, to have that debate in their parliament and to put that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Women's Reproductive Health: Discussion (8 Mar 2017)

Louise O'Reilly: It is absolutely welcome. I want to correct Senator Mullen on one point. I thank him not to put words in my mouth because I was fairly clear on what I said and it does not require any interpretation by the Senator or anybody else. When Senator Dolan referred to women giving up their children, was he referring to the mother and baby homes?

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