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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: Would Mr. Hassett accept that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: I believe that the individuals who were defrauded should be looked after by the insurance company in terms of a refund.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: The information we have is that personal injury claims decreased from 255,000 to 200,000.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many of those were personal injury claims?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Horan has repeatedly stated that personal injury claims increased. Can he substantiate that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am asking about the number of claims.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am referring to the 255,000 to 200,000 reduction, which is a reduction of 55,000. The witnesses have continually stated that personal injury claims have increased. I am asking Mr. Hassett to substantiate that claim. If the overall number of claims have decreased, surely the number of personal injury claims have decreased.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: The figures do not lie. If Mr. Hassett is saying that personal injury claims have increased he needs to substantiate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: No. There is a figure of 250,000 versus a figure of 200,000.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: There is a reduction of 55,000, which is 22%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: Insurance Ireland is saying the number of personal injury claims has gone up. I do not believe that is the case because the overall figures are down. By definition the personal injury claims must be down.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: I do not buy it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: To clarify, Mr. Horan said motor insurance premiums amounted to €1.7 billion. In what year was that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: What was the amount paid out on claims? Was it €1.3 billion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is a profit of €500 million for the motor insurance industry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: It was stated that 70% of claims are personal injuries claims.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Horan is saying 75% of the €1.3 billion insurers' pay out relates to personal injury claims.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: Okay, but the reduction from 255,000 to 200,000 is in respect of which types of claims?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: To what does the 75% figure relate then?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Dual Pricing for Insurance: Discussion (Resumed) (21 Nov 2019)

Kieran O'Donnell: By definition then, regarding the 75% in moneys paid out, there must be a correlation in that the reduction from 255,000 to 200,000 must involve a reduction in personal injury claims as well.

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