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Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Will Dr. Murphy check and come back to us?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Will he provide us with the names, reasoning and amounts paid to any staff member who retired from the organisation during his time and who was then rehired as a consultant? This seems to be an ongoing issue. There are retirement parties, people leave and the following Monday, they walk back in as consultants. To be fair, Dr. Murphy can provide details of instances where the total payments...

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Publish the minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: However, this was not credible.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is Dr. Love's opinion and he is entitled to it, but my opinion is that this failed. No college should be writing its own terms of reference when it is, effectively, investigating itself. The HEA is going to have to do it all over again.

Other Questions: Hospital Accommodation Provision (21 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: 120. To ask the Minister for Health his plans to alleviate overcrowding in South Tipperary General Hospital [27539/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Hospital Staff (21 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: 79. To ask the Minister for Health if there are senior management staff in the national maternity hospital that have financial interests through tax break schemes or otherwise in St. Vincent's private hospital. [27537/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Hospital Services (21 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: 94. To ask the Minister for Health the reason there has not been a full rollout of intermediate care vehicles with staff across the acute hospital network. [27540/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Primary Care Centres (21 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: 134. To ask the Minister for Health the status of all primary care health centres in County Tipperary. [27538/17]

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The committee is now in public session. We are joined by the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, as permanent witness to the committee. He is joined by Mary Henry, deputy director of audit. The Chairman, Deputy Sean Fleming, sends his apologies that he cannot attend today. We will take the business of the committee at the meeting next Thursday. Today, we will continue...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I thank the Commissioner for her opening statement. The delay in the commencement of this meeting related to a number of documents that the committee received late last night and needed time to go through. One of those documents from the Commissioner refers to the fact that on Friday last the internal auditor, Mr. Kelly, gave the witness a verbal report on the area of EU-funded training...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Has the witness notified the Minister for Justice and Equality of this issue under section 41(b) of the Garda Síochána Act?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Department has been informed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: What is the differentiation between this issue being immediately referred under section 41(b) of the Garda Síochána Act and it taking a considerable amount of time for the report received by the Commissioner in July 2015 to be brought to the attention of the Department of Justice and Equality, with that eventually occurring, as the committee found out, through the Department being...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: For clarification, did the Commissioner receive the report yesterday or on Friday?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Who did Mr. Kelly inform?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Commissioner found it necessary, because of the seriousness in regard to potential fraud and theft in connection with what she was informed of in writing yesterday, that the issue be referred to all of the bodies mentioned, including the Department, through the Secretary General, under section 41(b). However, she distinguished that from the scale of issues brought to her attention in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: In summary, the distinction is that yesterday Ms O'Sullivan felt that because there were specific allegations of theft and fraud, it was worthwhile notifying the Department under section 41. However, in July 2015, a date which is disputed and which we will clarify later, Ms O'Sullivan did not feel that the broad issues relating to a multiplicity of concerns on the issue of the Garda College...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Ms O'Sullivan was inquiring months later.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I find it incredible, I have to say. In the evidence on 4 May, Ms O'Sullivan said she did not feel there was any evidence of misappropriation of funds or fraud. Does she still believe that?

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