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Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: Too fast at times.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: Yes.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: The Deputy talks fast and he talks a lot. Go on, keep going.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: Quickly, before others contribute, I am looking through it. I refer to the insignificant size for rooms. We have seen this with other areas. They are constructing a new ten-bed unit. We have been promised a 60-bed in Cashel. They are identifying sites. We know two of the sites they are talking about. Nothing will ever be built there. What is worrying is that the Joint Committee on...

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: To be clear, we have it in our work programme to bring in the HSE. We wanted to meet all the groups first and get their story.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: In September, it is our intention to bring in the HSE, to sit the officials in front of us and start asking these questions.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: We still have not got too many answers off them. We want to try to make sure we get those answers. Before I let in anybody else, the Loughrea group is anxious to get away in the next 20 minutes or so. I ask the contributors to finish with Owenacurra as quick as we can. If anyone wants to ask questions on Loughrea, I will bring back in Owenacurra and St. Brigid's after the Loughrea group...

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: What we all must realise is that behind all the figures from Loughrea, Owenacurra and St. Brigid's, and we can rattle off Clifden, St. Brigid's in Portlaoise and St. Patrick's in Cashel, there are individuals and families. Sadly, that seems to be what the HSE, HIQA and those in power seem to forget. As we said, I think it was to St. Brigid's, when we had the HSE in, they told us it was an...

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: I agree with the Deputy about the media. The proceedings of this meeting are going out nationally. I hope the media takes up cases like the three in front of us and others that are out there which we know are coming. The mantra from the HSE and similar organisations is that there is an older population coming down the road and they talk about all the facilities we will need for that...

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: On behalf of the committee, we wish the Loughrea concerned citizens group all the best. As the witnesses can see from all the contributors today, we are behind their fight. We have dealt with it before. We will get the HSE back in again. We want answers because these situations are affecting every one of our communities from Galway to Cork. As I said, there are way more coming. Every...

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: We apologise to the Friends of Owenacurra group. They have the floor if members wish to ask questions.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: We will finish with Owenacurra first. Does the Senator have any more questions for them?

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: I thank Ms Curtis for giving her presentation. I ask her to hang on there. At the end of the presentation by St. Brigid's action group, we will open up to members again who may wish to ask either group anything else. I invite Ms Mullins to make her opening statement on behalf of St. Brigid's action group.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: Before I let anybody in, I want to ask a question. Ms Mullins is from the area. Will she give us an indication of the difficulties experienced by people she knows who had used St. Brigid's but now find themselves with a 40-minute drive to Clogheen? As she said, there is no public transport. People are 40 minutes away from a family member who may be receiving end-of-life care.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: To be fair, given the work and the amount of money raised over the years by the people of Carrick-on-Suir and its catchment area, they are entitled to feel they are stakeholders in the hospital. As Ms Mullins said, the rug was pulled from under them with no consideration given to what had gone on previously. Senator Craughwell will speak about the redacted minutes shortly. This was an...

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: -----but whole sections of the minutes of meetings were redacted. The HSE may as well have sent us an empty envelope as what it has sent us.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: As has been said, we will bring the HSE back before the committee again. As Cathaoirleach of the committee, I feel it is an awful insult to committee members and to the staff given the amount of work they put into trying to get this information out of the HSE and then to finish up with what we got.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: We will hear from Deputy Cahill and then Deputy McGrath.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: We have no intention of it, Deputy Cahill.

Committee on Public Petitions: Closure of Vital Health Services: Discussion (13 Jul 2023)

Martin Browne: Just to let the public know, I think five pages of a reply came back and I would say about a hundred words were readable out of those five pages.

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