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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: ------or an apology will be given?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: How is that ambiguous?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I heard that it would be verbal.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Are staff - I am struggling to find a word - that absolutely incompetent that one has to take them through things like that with baby steps? I am at a loss to understand how the ambiguity arose. Ms Colley has told me it was not in a letter and it was going to be done verbally. That is hardly an earth shattering concept to take on board for somebody that the HSE has entrusted, by the way,...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I shall ask my final question. The whistleblowers have been fairly damning in their description of the HSE. They feel that they were ignored, set aside, undermined and their professional credibility called into question. That was their experience of dealing with you. How does Mr. O'Brien respond to that?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Do not bring us down an alleyway.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. O'Brien, that is nonsensical.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Tell me what the explanation for this is. What is the explanation for the whistleblowers, whose names are on record-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----a social worker and a director of services from WIDA, to say, that in six years of dealing with the HSE and, indeed, the Department of Health, they were discredited------

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: They use phrases like "damaging their professional reputation". They described themselves as outraged and insulted.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: They say that statements released by the HSE referred to meetings with their agency that did not take place and so on. Is Mr. O'Brien familiar with this piece of correspondence?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sure Mr. O'Brien is not suggesting that there is any other or ulterior motive on their part than assisting their clients-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: This, to their way of thinking, is the true and accurate reflection of their interactions with the HSE, and it does not read well.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does Mr. O'Brien think the whistleblowers are due an apology from the HSE and the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: What is Mr. O'Brien's position as he is talking to us now?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: When is Mr. O'Brien meeting them?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Finally, as you thought about an apology from March to December, to what extent was----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Your colleague Mr. Healy was. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am talking about "you" as an entity, corporately.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: In that period, to what extent did litigation or potential litigation loom large in your assessment?

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