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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will come to that in due course. If Mr. Buckley has written to us this week and we have not yet received it, we need it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: When was that sent to us?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: For the avoidance of confusion, we went through our correspondence and neither I nor the members are aware of this having arrived. Will somebody in Mr. Buckley's office email it to the committee straightaway and we will arrange for the secretariat to have it circulated?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Of 2017, yes-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask those to be emailed to the committee straightaway and we will get them copied and circulated. They are presumably not too voluminous. Is a letter was sent this week, we need to have it here in front of us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Buckley's colleagues are checking by email and will be able to respond in the next few minutes. Within ten minutes we will need this sorted out either way. If it is an email, it should be sent to the committee and we will have it copied and circulated.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: That was the 2014 report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: The substantive report is the 2014 report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Would it be possible to get a copy of that email to us today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is the first issue I wanted to raise before we our work gets under way. The second issue is also related to the Office of Public Works. The Committee of Public Accounts issued its periodic report on 23 January 2018 and one of the issues it dealt with was the reopening Garda stations. One of the recommendations of our report was that the cost implications of the review to reopen Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: To clarify, the public will be confused and Mr. Buckley will have to bear with me as I try to help the public. People think the OPW manages Garda stations and so on. In some cases it does absorb the full cost of some Departments, then some of the cost of the work it does is absorbed by the line Department, as in this case, by the Department of Justice and Equality. Is there anywhere that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is the OPW the contracting authority for this work and is it then reimbursed? Will Mr. Buckley explain how the procedure works?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: The OPW is the contracting authority to carry out the work. Is the office reimbursed? How does the system work in layman's English?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Who writes the cheque for the contractor?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Buckley satisfied that the OPW can meet the June 2019 deadline to have these Garda stations opened? Has the OPW gone to tender or finalised tender documents?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is that for Stepaside?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: The OPW must have an approximate breakdown of costs for the six stations. The only reason I ask is that the committee has done a special report on this issue and I am following through on that. Does Mr. Buckley have a breakdown of the €2.5 million, approximately, between the six stations?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, is there an estimate of this? We are not tying Mr. Buckley to the nearest thousand euro. Does he have an idea?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am not tying Mr. Buckley to that figure. We understand that it is only an estimate but at least we now have an approximate indication of the cost. Stepaside Garda station is the biggest cost element of the six Garda stations.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: I raised this because we reported on this at the beginning of the year. Mr. Buckley is the first person to give a proper response to the committee's report issued last January and I thank him for that. It is a pity somebody else did not give us that information in the meantime. It is good to have it now. At this stage I want to resume what should be our normal business for our lead speakers.

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