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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: To save time, could the Commissioner supply a structure of who is there, the contracts they are on, the date their contracts are from and the dates on which they were signed off on by the Department and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform? I presume that liaison committee is there for anybody in An Garda Síochána who is-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: In respect of the people who were hired, was a legal person hired?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: So no solicitor was hired as part of this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: No legal person was hired to be part of this unit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Fine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: But An Garda Síochána does not have any separate legal-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: In respect of the people who were actually hired as part of this unit, I presume it was open to public competition.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I know but I am asking a specific question. Was it open to public competition?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Was this open to public competition?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Why not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: How were these people chosen?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: No, I do not want a note on this. I want to know here and now how those people were chosen.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: Who chose them? Who interviewed them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I want an answer here and now. Who interviewed the people who were in the Charlton tribunal liaison committee that was not under public procurement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: There are two answers here. Either the Commissioner does not know, which would be absolutely extraordinary, or she is not willing to provide the information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: How could they? This is very important. We have a group that was set up for all gardaí who were involved in the Charlton tribunal. We are not talking about Charlton because this is ultimately a cost to the State. This group was set up. People were put into this unit. There was no public procurement of them and we are saying here that we do not even know if they were interviewed for...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is nice.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I accept that but I just want to clarify the information I want. First, I want to know who these individuals are. I want to know why the process by which they were chosen was not done through public procurement; if they were interviewed, who interviewed them; and, the costs associated with it. I also want to know about the decision making by the Departments of Public Expenditure and Reform...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22 - Courts Service
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: We will have to finish because we have to come back afterwards and do something totally different.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22 - Courts Service
(13 Jul 2017)

Alan Kelly: I have 15 seconds remaining for questions.

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