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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: We had the Minister, Deputy Eamon Ryan, before us. For orange and red countries, PCR testing should be made mandatory to ensure people can come home for Christmas and we should expand the capacity at a national level to ensure tests can take place, obviously at a reasonable cost. We will finish up on Senator Dooley's questions with a brief response from Ms Ryan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I now invite one of the representatives from Fórsa to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: Deputy Joe Carey is next. The Deputy is very keen to hear from Limerick Chamber on the Copenhagen Economics report in respect of Shannon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I apologise for interrupting but Dr. Cahill needs to conclude because I want to bring in the other speakers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: There is only enough time for the representatives of IALPA to respond. We are very tight on time. I ask Mr. Cullen to very briefly deal with the points raised.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I hope that is not the case. There was no intention to do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: With respect, there was no intention in any way to hijack the witnesses. We were looking at aviation in the round. I acknowledge the last point made by Mr. Brereton in respect of testing and about the airlines. We need to move on. I call Deputy Ó Murchú. We are very limited on time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does the Deputy wish for all the unions to respond? I will start with Mr. Kavanagh of Connect Trade Union, to be followed by Mr. McGowan, Mr. Staunton and Mr. Cullen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Mr. Kavanagh and call Mr. McGowan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: We are very tight on time. I ask Mr. McGowan to be concise.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: We got a second meeting against the curve, as we feel it is so important to hold these discussions on aviation. We had hoped to do further discussions but there is a backdrop.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I apologise for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: We move to Mr. Staunton.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: We have to conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will call the witnesses in the following order: Mr. Cullen, Ms Connelly, Mr. McGowan, Mr. Kavanagh and Dr. Cahill.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I ask Dr. Cahill to respond to Deputy Lowry's question about the importance of Cork and Shannon airports to the region.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have a few questions. Apart from the future of the sector, I want to deal specifically with the issue of testing. We have had various experts appear before the committee, including with respect to Rome airport, where rapid antigen testing is taking place. The Minister has appeared before the committee, as has the Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Tony Holohan, covering this whole area. They...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Mr. Cullen regard Ireland as an outlier in terms of rapid testing at the moment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: We have limited time. The HIQA report on Covid that was commissioned by NPHET, the membership of which is basically located in the Department of Health, stated it could not stand over the antigen test. It said the PCR test was a more effective test. On health grounds, how does Mr. Cullen respond to that finding?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Affecting the Aviation Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Nov 2020)

Kieran O'Donnell: What if the gold standard was mandatory?

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