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Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: No, I am not.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I am not.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: No. I have referred briefly to some of the things I said on Second Stage without going into any detail. The Cathaoirleach should allow me to conclude without interruption, if he does not mind.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I am going to finish.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I am seeking that this section be removed because it is a practice where women deny their natural role. Many for various reasons feel distressed and suicidal as a consequence of the distress they suffered. I recognise that that is a real situation, but abortion harms women, it does not actually cure their suicidal ideation.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: That is my point.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: As we have seen, women have died as a consequence of this.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: Women suffer trauma as a consequence of having an abortion in these cases.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: Even women who are suicidal-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: We know that women suffer post-abortion trauma because of guilt afterwards. That is medically proven.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I am not.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: Many women - and we have had examples of it - suffer not just increased mental illness as a consequence of abortion, which is what this is about, but in fact some become suicidal as a consequence and have actually committed suicide as a consequence of it. So I am asking the Minister, in the interests of these women,-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: -----what counselling and support systems will be put in place for these women who are going to have abortions. All the evidence we have to date is that there are no backup services. It is all very fine for the pseudo-liberals and pseudo-feminists to argue for the woman's right to choose.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: She is exercising that right to choose whether her baby lives or dies.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: However, as soon as that woman has had her abortion, they are no longer interested. All they are interested in is asserting the ideology.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I am going to conclude. I am asking the Minister-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I will. In the case of these women who have had abortions - many of whom have often suffered trauma throughout their lifetimes, with no backup support - I am asking the Minister what support systems is he putting in place-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: -----as a consequence of this Bill, in order to see that those women get the necessary supports to which they are entitled?

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: Once we bring it in with the suicide clause, it will open the door. This has happened in every country. The number of procedures carried out is in the order of 600 million in four countries, namely China, the United States, Britain and India. If one accounts for the rest of the world, the number is in excess of 1 billion. I could give statistics from many countries. A document I saw...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Jim Walsh: I know the Senator does not want to hear the hard facts but I would like her to listen to them and, perhaps, re-examine her conscience. A total of 66 infants survived NHS termination attempts in one year alone. Rather than dying at birth, as intended, they were able to breathe unaided. Approximately half were alive for an hour while one survived for ten hours. Once born, no medical help...

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