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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Who said the window of opportunity was small?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: However, it did not state it would be ruled out in other cases.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: That is my point. It has not actually delimited the extent to which legislation could be brought forward in this area.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Is that Dr. Mills's view?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: That does not mean mandated. It just meant that the prohibition was not in violation of the Constitution. It did not decide that there was a "thus far and no further" situation in terms of how the Oireachtas might legislate in this area, should it wish to do so. It simply stated the courts might have to have regard to whether balances were taken into account, but did not discuss the extent...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (29 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I also thank Senator Keoghan and, indeed, the Seanad Office for guiding us through the necessary formalities on this. I propose an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 15 be taken before No. 1 today." This relates to my Bill, the Broadcasting (Restriction of Salaries) Bill 2023, which I hope will be debated in the Seanad next week. We are all aware of the crisis that has broken...

Seanad: Broadcasting (Restriction of Salaries) Bill 2023: First Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I move: That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to amend the Broadcasting Act 2009 to provide for transparency in the public interest in relation to the remuneration of certain individuals pursuant to contracts of employment and contracts for services with corporations, and to provide for connected matters.

Seanad: Broadcasting (Restriction of Salaries) Bill 2023: First Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Next Tuesday.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I welcome the witnesses and thank them for their input. To avoid confusion, I want to clarify the language that I will use here. As a committee, we have not yet decided what we mean by assisted dying. I am going to rely on the distinction made in Canada where "medically assisted dying" comports euthanasia, but also comports what I will term "assisted suicide". This is where the person is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Does it follow from that, therefore, that Dr. Campbell does not support any restrictions by reference to terminal illness or prognosis since you cannot interpret another person's suffering? Is she saying, if you take a purely autonomous view, you just have to take that person's word for it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: If Dr. Campbell is saying it is all subjective, in that no value judgment can be made about another person's suffering, is she not also saying there is no basis on which we could credibly deny anybody a request to end their life?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I submit that involves a value judgment on somebody else's suffering. As Dr. Campbell mentioned the Netherlands-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Dr. Campbell talked about the transparency in the Netherlands but there was an appalling case, which Dr. Campbell referenced but did not detail, where a woman who had requested assisted dying well in advance was sedated to prevent her from objecting and, when she struggled, it was basically forced. Is that not the reason people have to be worried that this actually changes everything? Once...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: In that case it was not at the person's request because it was well after it. It was based on the husband's statement that she decided-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: The view of the medical panel reviewing the case was that she was, and also that there was an attempted struggle-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: -----and that she was overwhelmed. Dr. Campbell also mentioned Victoria. I looked up Victoria. I think that was done in 2017, which is relatively recent. Even between 2019 and 2020, the number of euthanasia or assisted suicide cases - I forget which - almost doubled from about 47 to 94. I understand as well that at least at one point it was not even required to have a second opinion as...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: It might be worry for a lot of people. When Dr. Campbell says "extremely stringent", that is language that seems characterised to reassure but I have given an example of at least one shortcoming in the legislation that I think would have a lot of people worried.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I thank Dr. Campbell for making that last point because not every one makes the point in advance of something being legalised that it is to be expected that when something is made legal, it increases. Yet, that is almost universally the case. As I understand it, it is not that it increases while, for example, a waiting list is being dealt with but that the increases we have seen in places...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: It was more Dr. Campbell who was gunning for it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Where attempts are made to have safeguards, or where there is what is described as a safeguard in any regime where euthanasia or assisted suicide is permitted, what tariff or penalty attaches to breaches of safeguards that cause to die people who, under the rules, should not have been allowed to die or be killed? Are we talking about the equivalent of penalties for murder or manslaughter in...

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