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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: I asked the Bus Éireann representatives about the Public Service Obligation, PSO, per passenger. How does that stand in Iarnród Éireann? It is €1 for Bus Éireann. What is it for Iarnród Éireann?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: How does that compare internationally?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: I ask Mr. Meade to pass on that information to the committee. We do not know how it compares with other countries but we do know that it is three times the cost to the State, per passenger, to transport people by rail as opposed to by bus. One of the difficulties we have in this country is that we are building motorways and looking to build rail lines on the same space and, often times,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: How much quicker is the Dublin to Cork route today than it was in 2008?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Is that happening elsewhere in the State?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: What is the timescale on electrification? Mr. Meade made reference to the longer term policy but how long is that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Is that 30 years to start it or to complete it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: I ask Mr. Meade to outline the picture in terms of new opportunities, like extending the line to Navan, for example. A number of new commuter lines have been opened in recent times. What is the company's plan in that space?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Okay. Deputy Collins is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Could An Teachtá Ó Cuív let Senator O'Donnell speak briefly? She has to go to a vote in the Seanad.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Would Senator O'Donnell like to make a contribution? The Deputy is over his five minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Can An Teachtá Ó Cuív let Senator O'Donnell speak? She has to go for a vote.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: We have to hear from the National Transport Authority, so can the Senator come back? I welcome the representatives of the National Transport Authority and invite them to make their presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: In fairness, we will let our guest finish her answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: I will extend the Deputy's time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Ideology and policy determine the amount of public transport there is within the State and the NTA works within that parameter. There is a push-pull situation because the NTA has the ear of policymakers and provides them with expert advice on which they rely. Interestingly, the Government, in its policy approaches, now takes everything outside of Dublin to be rural. We have often asked...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: I want to drill down into two matters that have been raised. Were the projections in population that the NTA made for the Navan area correct in terms of the results of the census carried out in 2016 by the CSO?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: The CSO figures for each county have been published.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: Meath County Council is working off significant different projections from the NTA. Ms Graham has not mentioned population disruption. The policy articulation of the Government is to disrupt the population trends that marked the past 20 years. Transport is one of biggest tools in achieving that goal. If we do not provide services in places where there is not a direct demand now - we would...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Sustaining Viable Rural Communities: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2017)

Peadar Tóibín: What has been the NTA's engagement with the new spatial plan outlined in the national planning framework? What has been the level of engagement by the NTA?

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