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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The allowances are over half that. I was reading them yesterday. There are 47 or 48 different allowances.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: So €98 million of the €202 million was overtime.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. One individual had an overtime and allowance payment of €110,000 in that year. How would that come about in one case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: My understanding is that this is on top of the salary. It seems an excessive amount for one individual. What is the average amount in overtime payments for rank-and-file gardaí per annum?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: You might refer back to the committee with that, perhaps in €10,000 categories.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Regarding transport and vehicles, there are 3,100 vehicles. The number increased particularly during 2020 with hire and some purchases. There were 641 accidents in 2020. That is one in five. I understand the nature of the job for gardaí. They are involved in high-speed chases and situations where cars are damaged in public order incidents. Where the damage is inflicted like that,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: They would include where gardaí might drive into a public order situation and there might be sticks or stones or whatever else and vehicles are damaged. Obviously, members are put at risk as well. That figure would include that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have a question about procurement. There was non-compliant procurement of €8.7 million in the annual accounts. That was reported for 2021. Was any part of that related to payment to a medical team or a medical company to take blood samples?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the annual cost, roughly, of that contract for taking blood samples?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does it go through normal procurement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: What you are referring to is where gardaí may only have one option in parts of the country.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy McAuliffe is next.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will now suspend the meeting for a ten-minute break.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Portlaoise is at the crossroads of Ireland. Deputy Carroll MacNeill is welcome to the meeting. She is having a busy day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: If members want to come in a second time, they should indicate. I want to revert to the CAD system with the Commissioner, who was dealing with this. The new system has a cost of €15 million. Is the Commissioner confident at this point that this will reduce error and correct the situation where the information is not being transferred properly onto the PULSE system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Policing Authority carried out a review and made 13 recommendations. How many of those have been implemented at this point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: When this came to light first, the Garda Síochána took the position that the CAD system was flawed and that it was not down to human error in the station. The Policing Authority has done its examination and it came up with the position that service failures arising from the cancelled incidents and other workarounds by members cannot be attributed to failures in the CAD system....

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Last year, GSOC wrote to the committee and set out a response to a number of issues that we raised with it. According to it, as a result of complaints received in 2020, 572 criminal investigations were opened, which contrasted with a figure of 485 in 2019. This could have major financial implications. In its response, GSOC also stated that its investigators had carried out non-criminal...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is understandable enough. While I understand that many complaints will be frivolous, false or the like, in how many of the 572 cases involving criminal investigations would it turn out to be that the allegations being made were substantially true? Would it be a ratio of 50:50? I am trying to get a figure for the potential number of convictions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: As the Commissioner, Mr. Harris will be watching them. If there were 572 investigations, the police service's management would keep them under watchful eye and see how many resulted in prosecutions or headed towards prosecution.

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