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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Please allow the Commissioner to respond first

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Representatives of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, GSOC, will be before the committee next week. I call Deputy Munster who has ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has two minutes left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Commissioner Coxon wants to answer that question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank the deputy commissioner. We are over time. I will let Deputy Munster back in for a second round of questions. Following on from her question, I ask Dr. Coxon if there is a timeframe for the completion of those disciplinary procedures.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: It has been going on for months.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Perhaps Dr. Coxon might come back to the committee with that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Dr. Coxon. Some Deputies are at other committees this morning. Deputy Carroll MacNeill has been counting Seanad votes. Deputy Verona Murphy is next.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is over time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, the Deputy is over time. If the officials do not have the figure at this time, maybe it is available elsewhere. I think I saw it in one of the documents.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I ask the Commissioner to come back in briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Turning to the payroll overpayment, my figures suggest it was €2.2 million, relating to 1,242 cases in 2020. Some €1.5 million of that was recovered and related to 872 cases that had a recovery plan in place. What happens with the other €700,000? Are there moves afoot to try to get a repayment plan in place for those? What is the longest time that a payroll overpayment...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: What are the circumstances where an overpayment would happen? Is it administration or the computer system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: There was a sum of €202 million paid in overtime and allowances in 2020. How much of that was allowances? Would it be 20% or 30%?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The allowances are over half that. I was reading them yesterday. There are 47 or 48 different allowances.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: So €98 million of the €202 million was overtime.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. One individual had an overtime and allowance payment of €110,000 in that year. How would that come about in one case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: My understanding is that this is on top of the salary. It seems an excessive amount for one individual. What is the average amount in overtime payments for rank-and-file gardaí per annum?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: You might refer back to the committee with that, perhaps in €10,000 categories.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Regarding transport and vehicles, there are 3,100 vehicles. The number increased particularly during 2020 with hire and some purchases. There were 641 accidents in 2020. That is one in five. I understand the nature of the job for gardaí. They are involved in high-speed chases and situations where cars are damaged in public order incidents. Where the damage is inflicted like that,...

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