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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: -----she wrote to Mr. Waters.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Approval was only given by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform on 5 May. In the interim a whole pile of people were hired before the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform gave sanction. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is it normal for Mr. Waters to give oral sanction like that before getting approval?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: On how many occasions?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Give me an example of a precedent by which this would have been done.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Can Mr. Waters think of a precedent when he did this for something similar?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Barrett, I presume as the head of HR, and given the issues that the Secretary General has outlined here and given the timelines that the Acting Commissioner has outlined, I am sure he was fully consulted on all of this given the HR implications and is fully happy with all of this process.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: On what dates were the contracts drawn up?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I appreciate that Mr. Barrett would not have thought he would be asked about this matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is fair enough. Did the contracts and transfers happen in or around February?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Was it 21 February, which is the same day the phone call happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Next question. Is Mr. Barrett 100% happy with the manner in which this unit was created, and the manner in which it functions?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I will shorten short my question because it is about-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: One second now, I am asking a question.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: My question is about the creation of the unit, not about its work on the Charleton commission. Is Mr. Ó Cualáin absolutely happy about the manner in which this was created, not the functioning of it? I mean the manner in which this was created.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I do not accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is unacceptable.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I do not want the Commissioner to answer anything. I am asking Mr. Barrett. Is he, on the record, fully happy with the manner in which this was created? My question has nothing to do with the Charleton commission at all just the way in which, using public moneys, the unit was created. That is it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: My question is not really for the Secretary General.

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