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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Do some of the bigger Departments have their own procurement officers?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Would a smaller organisation like an ETB have a procurement officer or would procurement be the responsibility of a financial controller?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: These are the processes we are talking about. Often they are too cumbersome.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Are there EU directives that have frameworks on procurement?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: We have come at this in the first place because there is an obvious problem. If every second or third set of accounts has a note that there is non-compliance, it means there is a problem. When we have looked at this we have found that the problems are twofold. In some cases it is bad management and a flagrant disregard of the rules. This is one element of it. There are also problems with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: There are two issues to which I want to come back. I want to be fair to the Courts Service and accept from the responses given that there are problems with legislation, legal lacunae and a shortage of judges. It has to be said there are a number of issues which are leading to problems that I agree with the Chairman were not dealt with in the opening statement made by the Courts Service....

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Therefore, one third provide the details and two thirds do not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: What happens to the two thirds who do not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Is it? That is the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: It does not appear to be.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: I will get to that in a second. In very simplistic terms-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Yes, exactly. In simplistic terms we could take a figure of 1,000 people coming before the court and presenting their licences, with 334 doing so and 666 not doing so. The 666 who do not present their licences are committing a criminal act but there is no enforcement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Does that mean the penalty points that a person might accrue from an offence would not be applied to the licence?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: If a person does not produce his or her licence, does the person gain an advantage, either financial or otherwise?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: We will get to that in a second as there are issues with collection.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: With the two thirds of people who do not produce their driver licence, it is not the case they would not have the fine or penalty points imposed. That is still done. The only problematic element is that the people have not produced their driver licence, which is an offence in itself. Is that it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Exactly. There is also a cost to getting to that point in the first place. I imagine in the vast majority, if not all cases, a garda would have stopped an individual because of a road traffic offence. There is a cost to the taxpayer to get to the point where somebody is given a fine in the first place. The taxpayer would hope that the administration of justice would be done and the law...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: Will the witness speak to the 80,000 or 90,000 fines notices? Is it the case that some of those would never be heard?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: They would never be listed in one go.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

David Cullinane: The service holds off from listing all of them because they are done in bundles.

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