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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: So 26 June 2023 was the very first time that he had knowledge-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: -----that the Grant Thornton report was being done. I ask the same question of Mr. Kelly. Obviously, if Grant Thornton was delving into the pay arrangements, in relation to which it did highlight concerns, was it the same for him?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: That was on 23 May. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Was that the first time documents were requested from Mr. Kelly's company in relation to Mr. Tubridy's pay?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: When did Mr. Kelly first alert Mr. Tubridy that the report was being carried out and that he may have had concerns?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I am asking the question for Mr. Tubridy's own benefit. I know he may feel that I am being in some way indignant, but I am not.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: The reason I am asking is that it is crucial to us understanding and verifying that the information is correct-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: -----and it was nothing to do with his decision to step down from "The Late Late Show". That is why I am asking that.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: No, that is clarified. I am content with that.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I want to move on to the deal surrounding Renault. The first year of the deal was 2021. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: At what stage was Mr. Kelly informed that Renault did not want to continue with its part of the deal following the outbreak of the pandemic, that it was withdrawing and that, subsequently, RTÉ was stepping in and providing the funding to fill the gap?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I mentioned stepping back from the arrangement. As we have discussed already, that €75,000 was paid by RTÉ. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: In the latter half of the arrangement, where Mr. Tubridy was not participating-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: They were paid by Astus.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Effectively, that is what we need to get an understanding of. What work was done in return for that in the later years, during the pandemic and in 2022?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Mr. Kelly is telling me that those roadshows are owed effectively-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: -----and they will have to be done subsequently.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Mr. Tubridy was paid in advance.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: I must ask, from the point of view of reputational damage, which I think is key, did Mr. Tubridy not assess this going into the pandemic? We all know how difficult it was, and Mr. Tubridy broadcast throughout it, with great admiration and respect from the population. Did he in any way say to himself that this is a dangerous situation because the published figures pertaining to his salary...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

James O'Connor: Mr. Tubridy never asked any questions in regard to that.

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