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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I appreciate that. I know that is why you are here.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: In terms of the physical and oral statements made in the Houses of the Oireachtas, one of the inaccuracies that Mr. Tubridy has alluded to concerns the secret overpayment by RTÉ, which he said he challenged back in 2020. Was that challenge in writing?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: There are a lot of documents.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: It is in writing. That is all I wanted to establish.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I also want to get a timeframe in terms of the negotiation of Mr. Tubridy's first contract. Did those negotiations start in 2014?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: The end of 2014. That contract ran to 2020 and then there were fresh negotiations around the contract.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: When did the negotiations start for the Renault contract?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Mr. Kelly can see where the cloud or fog of confusion arises when people say that the two contracts are running parallel and one had a 20% pay cut and the other had a supplement.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Briefly, please, because I am under time pressure.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Try sitting where we are sitting.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: In terms of the invoicing, I hear what Mr. Kelly says. He did what he was told.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: There is an email in the pack provided and he mentioned all the information on the invoice. I think Astus is the name of the company he was told to invoice from.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Did he ever meet any representatives from Astus?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Was this just a new company that he was told to invoice?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: That was not really questioned at all, on Mr. Kelly's part either.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: So if RTÉ had asked him to pay Newstalk, would he have done that too?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I am being facetious because Mr. Kelly was negotiating with RTÉ on a contract and he was told to invoice a different company he had never heard of. How did that come about and how come there was no questioning of it?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I get that.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Why was there not a question about who was being invoiced? Mr. Kelly was negotiating with RTÉ and now he was invoicing Joe Bloggs.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Did it ever ask him to invoice a company he had never heard of?

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