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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did Mr. Day write to Mr. Kelly?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is there not a record on file, an unsigned letter, from Mr. Day to Mr. Kelly?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Right. I am going to put it to Mr. Raleigh that there is. I think, Chairman, albeit that Mr. Day is retired, it is my understanding that he had a very clear analysis of how serious things were in respect of Console. I accept entirely that Mr. Raleigh cannot answer for a situation when he was not in position, but if we are to get to the bottom of what happened here and why, I suggest,...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I will try to help Mr. O'Brien, because I am not theorising or giving vent to my idiosyncratic suspicions. I am looking at a memorandum to Geoff Day, director, National Office for Suicide Prevention from a Declan Behan, SEO in the National Office for Suicide Prevention. It is dated 1 February 2009 and it sets out a review of documentation going back to 2004 and raises very serious concerns...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I have it here.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not know. I will be happy to make it available if that helps.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I accept the point. I am raising this not to bamboozle the committee but to illustrate that the HSE had plenty of internal correspondence to identify, without a shadow of doubt, that it was dealing with a deeply problematic situation. It might be helpful if the committee asked the HSE to provide all of the correspondence between the HSE and Console, including the internal e-mails, memoranda...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I have a limited amount of time and I wish to move to a second issue. That might be Mr. O'Brien's judgment but he cannot ask this committee to make any judgment, good, bad or indifferent-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----without sight of everything. That includes internal memoranda and e-mails between persons within the HSE and the Department of Health. We need full access to that information.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Mr. O'Brien. I have a question about the situation in St. John of God services. Mr. O'Brien said in his opening remarks that he wrote - I remember it well - to all the section 38 organisations. That was back in 2013.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: He wrote to them to inquire about compliance. At that stage there were several stand-out examples of non-compliance. Mr. O'Brien wrote to them. Did they write back to him in 2013?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I want to know what they replied when Mr. O'Brien inquired about their state of compliance.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: They misled the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does the witness have a copy of that response from St. John of God services?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Can we be provided with that? To recap, at the time there had been great concern. Section 38 organisation employees are public servants and Mr. O'Brien has set out what that means by way of respecting the public sector consolidated pay rates and so forth.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is it feasible to have it circulated?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: In 2013, the HSE wrote to the section 38 organisations - it did not single out St. John of God services - regarding compliance with public sector pay norms. We are now informed that, in response to that letter, St. John of God services wrote back to say that they were in compliance.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Can we take a two or three minute break for that?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: The main thing is to get access to the letter.