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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Just to clarify for the committee, Mr. Day was the head of the National Office for Suicide Prevention.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is the role that Mr. Raleigh holds.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: He resigned in 2011 actually.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes, thank you. In 2015, the nominated person and the authorised signatory is one person, a Ms Stephanie Lynch. Does Ms Lynch still work for the HSE?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay, but that is not clear from the documentation that the HSE has given to us.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: The point is - Mr. O'Brien might want to sit back into his seat and I do not think we should miss this as a committee - that it is not good enough for the HSE simply to say in a general way that it introduced these general protocols and systems. The real accountability, and what we need to get to, is the issue of the nominated people who had a specific role in respect of these agreements...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Outside of that, is it Mr. Raleigh's practice to meet the organisation? Quite aside from the paper exercise, does he do a face-to-face meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: How often would Console have been met?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Are minutes kept of those meetings?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Can we have the minutes of those meetings?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I would like Mr. Raleigh to be as expansive as he can in terms of the minutes he can provide to us. What was Mr. Raleigh's relationship with Mr. Kelly? Would he have known him professionally over the years?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Would that also have been the case for Mr. Raleigh's predecessor, Mr. Day?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. Where is Mr. Day now?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is Mr. Raleigh still in contact with him?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. When Mr. Raleigh rang him, did Mr. Raleigh ask him if he responded to the letter that has been raised by Deputy Connolly, the correspondence from Jean Casey, back in 2006? That raised not just clinical issues about clinical supervision, but also governance issues. Did Mr. Day respond to that letter?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. In that response he says, "As Console's major funder, your concerns have to be raised urgently by the National Office for Suicide Prevention". He attached a great deal of importance to this letter from Ms Casey, did he not?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I would think it is manifestly so from the letter, which I have in my hand.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Then what happened next?.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: What did Mr. Day do next?

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