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Public Accounts Committee: Report on Reopening of Garda Stations: Acting Garda Commissioner (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: Perhaps we could have the exact date of that.

Public Accounts Committee: Report on Reopening of Garda Stations: Acting Garda Commissioner (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: I have a question for Mr. Nugent about what he said about wider consultation. As a committee, we accept that there must be wider consultation in relation to resources, but can we presume that the head of human resource management is fully consulted in all of these decisions?

Public Accounts Committee: Report on Reopening of Garda Stations: Acting Garda Commissioner (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Nugent is the chief administrative officer, CAO, and I presume, in terms of line management, he reports to the acting Garda Commissioner. I presume that the head of human resources, HR, was also consulted because there is no point in reopening Garda stations if one does have staff. I presume that in the preparation of the interim reports and through all of this, the head of HR was fully...

Public Accounts Committee: Report on Reopening of Garda Stations: Acting Garda Commissioner (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: An Garda Síochána has a head of HR. I am looking for a "Yes" or "No" answer. If he was not-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report on Reopening of Garda Stations: Acting Garda Commissioner (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: I ask the acting Garda Commissioner if he will ask the head of HR to confirm to this committee that, in relation to both interim reports, the head of HR was fully consulted and will make a statement to that effect.

Public Accounts Committee: Report on Reopening of Garda Stations: Acting Garda Commissioner (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: I ask that he would revert to the committee on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: I will be brief, which is unlike me, but in fairness most of the questions have been asked by my colleagues. I think I am the only person who overlaps in that I am on the health committee as well. I am spokesperson on health. To be fair to the witnesses, they are quite good at stakeholder engagement so they communicate quite a bit, but there is a critical issue here. I do not believe the...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: It is not just that. There are other areas as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: To be fair to the witnesses, and I know we are talking about them in front of them, they probably presumed that we knew but I would say the majority of Deputies do not know what HIQA does. With regard to my first question, my colleague, Deputy MacSharry, talked about staffing and Mr. Quinn outlined that HIQA has gone from a staff number of 192 to 209. I know about its plans because it has...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: The whole home care side alone-----

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is important information to get out. Ms Dunnion spoke earlier about the costs of registering. In terms of what the public needs to know also, there are registration costs. That is fine; that is the easy part. It is when HIQA comes in and makes recommendations. Organisations have two choices. They either do nothing and they will close or else they find the money and, in many cases,...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: Can Ms Dunnion explain that?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: So it is too rigid.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: What Ms Dunnion is saying is that we, as legislators, need to look at changing the regulations through the Health Act in order to ensure that they are tailored to individual services rather applying to bricks and mortar.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: I wish to dig into this further. I was somewhat annoyed about what happened in Ennis - let us not think about what is going to happen in the future - because details started appearing in the media before the stakeholders even knew, which is not good. An issue of public confidence arises. I was not happy with how it was managed and I am still not happy, but we will deal with it at the Joint...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: If I were to go through the records of all the nursing homes in Ireland or, more particularly, for those in County Clare - by the way, I do not represent the people of Clare - I presume I would find a rota process by means of which all of this is done.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: Nobody could be accused of being zealous in their undertakings or anything of that nature.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand that. Basically, there is a rigidity. However, there is enough fluidity in the system that HIQA staff can change it when they want.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: How does that happen? Does it arise on foot of public complaints?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Alan Kelly: Effectively, there is a matrix.

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