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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Business of Joint Committee (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Apologies have been received from Senator Paul Gavan. I now propose we go into private session. Agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: It was agreed that there are no subsidiarity concerns with Schedule A:COM(2018)171. It was also agreed that the proposal warrants no further scrutiny. It was agreed that the Schedule B proposals warrant no further scrutiny. I propose we suspend the meeting for a moment to allow our guests take their seats. Agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I would like to welcome Mr. Kevin Thompson, who is the chief executive officer of Insurance Ireland; Dr. Declan Jackson, who the director of government affairs of Insurance Ireland; and Mr. Michael Horan, who is the non-life manager of Insurance Ireland. I also welcome Mr. Séamus Maye of the International Small Business Alliance; Mr. Gerry Duddy, who is the secretary to the Public...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I thank Mr. Thompson. I invite Mr. Maye to make his presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I thank Mr. Maye. The cost of insurance has been a common theme among the delegates who have appeared before the committee to discuss the cost of doing business, a topic on which we have spent a substantial amount of time. It was raised as an issue of significant concern in the majority of submissions received from business organisations during the summer of 2017. Many organisations...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Mr. Maye is founder and chairman of the International Small Business Alliance and joint chairman of the Public Banking Forum of Ireland. Will he give us a little of the background of the International Small Business Alliance? How many companies and what type of businesses does it represent? I ask this question in order that members will know what questions to put to him. There was no...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I am simply trying to get my head around what Mr. Maye's organisation is like. Is it made up of like-minded SMEs which have come together?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Mr. Maye said he wanted to see fairness in trade between SMEs and multinational companies. Is he advocating for fair play for SMEs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Does the International Small Business Alliance deal with them on behalf of small and medium enterprises? I imagined that Mr. Maye would say he represented 50 or 60 businesses throughout the country, like RGDATA or other associations do. Is that the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: It is not clear in the document. Mr. Maye makes several statements on where things have gone wrong, but in order to allow members to direct questions to him, I wanted to get some background information. We will move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I beg the Senator's pardon. I thought his questions were for the insurance groups only.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Is it possible for those figures to be circulated to the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: That would be great.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Any further questions Senator Davitt?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: Would Deputy Quinlivan mind repeating that bunch of questions because there was quite a lot there and I know the witnesses were struggling to write them down.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: There is quite a lot there Mr. Thompson.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I saw that. Thank you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: We will certainly consider Deputy Neville's proposal. We have focused primarily on motor insurance which, while welcome-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I ask the Deputy to repeat his questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2018)

Mary Butler: I thank Deputy Neville. I have a question for Mr. Maye. During his presentation he spoke about the German industry and the pillar banks. While we were doing our many meetings, we had the pillar banks in and the following week we had Sparkassen, Irish Rural Link and the credit unions in to look specifically at what they could bring to the market. Mr. Maye is very supportive of the German...

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