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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will admit it, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: We need respect, especially from the Gallery. It is not a Gallery show.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will and I thank the Chair. I am sorry, the witness was answering.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Look at it. I am going to leave because it is useless.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I cannot hear the answer. It is unacceptable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: How many more times is this going to happen? I do not interrupt anybody or talk when somebody is talking. I leave occasionally to do other business and I get the Chair's permission. It is total disrespect. Total-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: -----and absolute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Sorry? No, but I always let the Chair know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No. I did not say that I was. It is common courtesy to tell the Chair that I had a meeting and I would be back at 3.30 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, the witness is answering the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I am interested in Bolivia, in fairness my question is on it. He is entitled to give the answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Well, we have. We are questioning the IFPA, we are in the course of asking questions of them. I also want to say that the witness or his colleague stated earlier that the women who attended undercover were not pregnant. However, I want to clarify that some of them had attended earlier when they were pregnant and they got that advice; that was why they were so concerned and went back to do...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, to clarify that. The witness stated earlier that the women, with all due respect, the women who attended undercover were not pregnant. They were not at the time but some of them had, at least two or three, been pregnant. I am also concerned about, and I tried to interject on a point of order earlier, the witness stating earlier that the gardaí were embarrassed by the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, no I have not. The question is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, it is a question. It is a direct question. How does the witness have that information?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I do not know the officers concerned but I think that is an outrageous statement. They have a duty to do.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Yes. Can I continue please? I raised this matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Please, I asked about this investigation several times on the Dáil floor and raised it with several Ministers and the previous Taoiseach. It went from an investigation down to an inquiry and then a HSE report. I think it is a pity that Deputy Fitzpatrick and Senator Mullen asked very pertinant questions today but they did not get answers. I am not getting them either. It is strange...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Yes. I am not saying anything to the Chair here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I just think it is strange that none of the other members of the committee is concerned enough about this dirty linen that has not been washed.

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