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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Please, I would appreciate it. They prepared a briefing on the work of the CIES for the all-party Oireachtas interest group on SRHR. That is a nice sidetrack for the IFPA. Is any of the Irish Aid grant aid being used for this form of advocacy and campaigning, that is the secretarial services for Oireachtas members? Not the secretariat here, the secretariat of the IFPA and other agencies,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: We are 100% certain on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It is interesting to see this secretariat idea now being expanded by the National Women's Council of Ireland being the secretariat for the Oireachtas Women's Caucus that includes Ministers, Deputies Fitzgerald, Zappone and Mitchell O'Connor. Transparency I think here has been blurred and the lobbying Act may have been evaded too. I believe it was a crafty process. It was not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I am just wondering about it. I have just asked a question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: They are in representing the IFPA so I am asking the question. Please chair. I am not accusing the Chair today of being biased but let me ask the questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, I am just referring to activities that they are carrying out and the secretariat work they are providing for other people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No. They are Ministers and I refer to the work carried out by this secretariat, not the one here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I can see for myself what it is. It is a scary area of maybe not being transparent and having transparency and distance among the IFPA and these caucus groups.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Sorry for interrupting. This is unacceptable and it is happening all the time. Giggles, laughing and scoffing and it is totally unacceptable. What-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I appreciate that. However, something has to be done about it. People watching at home can see what is going on. It is a cabal and it is unacceptable and it is happening all the time. The Chair earlier interrupted because I could not hear when there was noise and talk, and she asked for-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will admit it, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: We need respect, especially from the Gallery. It is not a Gallery show.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will and I thank the Chair. I am sorry, the witness was answering.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Look at it. I am going to leave because it is useless.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I cannot hear the answer. It is unacceptable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: How many more times is this going to happen? I do not interrupt anybody or talk when somebody is talking. I leave occasionally to do other business and I get the Chair's permission. It is total disrespect. Total-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: -----and absolute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Sorry? No, but I always let the Chair know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No. I did not say that I was. It is common courtesy to tell the Chair that I had a meeting and I would be back at 3.30 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, the witness is answering the question.

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