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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Look at this. Where are the manners and respect?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: This is outrageous. I thought I had the floor.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: This is continuous. It was going on last week within the cabal behind us in the Gallery. I said it was disgraceful. We are here as elected representatives. I listened to the lecture about Christianity from Senator Ned O'Sullivan. We are here to do our honest best and to represent whatever viewpoint we want.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will make the point without interruption, sniping and whooping.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I am making a point in support of Senator Mullen-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: ----- in that I am willing to wait until after the witness has deliberated, if it is any help.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: As I said, the timeline which led to the charge of bias in the committee is critical. At the outset, the committee invited 24 pro-repeal witnesses to present before it and just three pro-life witnesses. I thank the clerk to the committee for his endurance and forbearance in co-operating with me in trying to find out the full list. Then, in a most extraordinary move, just three weeks into...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I just said that they said they were blue in the face.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I do want any lectures from Deputy O'Connell.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I do not interrupt anyone. Deputy O'Connell knows that. The Chairman said at the beginning of the process that this committee would not repeat any of the work of the Citizens' Assembly and then proceeded to invite 12 of the same witnesses who appeared before the assembly. I lay that charge with the Chairman. She made that statement on the record and then invited 12 groups that appeared...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: The facts are there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Can I correct the record please?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I never impugned the name of the good clerk. Why would I? This is typical Sinn Féin bullying.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I thanked the clerk for supplying names, which he did. I made up my own mind as to who they were or what they stood for. I did not expect the clerk to do so and I would not have asked him to. Only members of a party that does not allow free speech would even think that I might have said that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I asked him for a list of names. I would never impugn this committee and I want that accusation withdrawn. This is coming from a Deputy who showed his teeth to me last week and told me that he was losing his temper. What am I supposed to do? Sit down and be frightened?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It happened.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: How is the temper today?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No way in the world. I was having an exchange with the Chairman and Deputy O'Brien said that he was losing his temper. It had nothing to do with him and I was not engaging with anybody else.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I never impugned the clerk. I thanked him for his work in supplying the names and I hope that he can accept that. This is very important.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (22 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I hope he can accept that. He has had a lot of engagement with my office on this and I thanked him for that. I never said that he said who these people were. We can make up our minds. Are we not allowed to think for ourselves?

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