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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: They need to be aware that in the corporate structure the people elected are the legal council. It is not the county manager. That is all I am saying. People need to be aware of that balance. The councillors have limited enough powers but they need to be aware of them. I now move to housing. Mr. Kelly deals with it. Will he outline the target for local authority builds this year?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is by local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: No. I want to talk about local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The delivery mechanism by local authorities-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is that 5,000 built by local authorities this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: And turnkeys.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: How many builds? Is it 2,000 or 3,000? I am trying to get a figure from Mr. Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the target?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr. Kelly, as principal officer dealing with this, know how many of that 9,000 will be local authority builds? Does he have some idea now that we are six months into the year, how many builds will have been completed by local authorities? The local authorities send plans back and forward to the Department to get approval and go through the Part 8 process locally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: That also includes approved housing body builds, does it not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: So 5,000 for local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: So if we strip out the Part V builds and the turnkeys what are we talking about? Is it roughly 50% of that, that is, 2,500?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The turnkeys are another 1,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Kelly might come back to me on it. We will take it as 3,000. Where are we at now, roughly?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Will the Department come back to us with the hard figures on that for where we are at the end of June, insofar as it has the information? There is a big budget, and rightly so. The more the merrier. The Committee of Public Accounts wants to see what returns we are getting. I am not clear and would like to have a clearer picture of it. I have complained to Ministers about the all the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Would that rule out the need for an architect to design every new house?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: We can get an architect to design the first lot and then pay them off-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know about the manual. I have been through that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: No but this is important because Mr. Doyle mentioned it to me before. That has to do with standards. What I am saying is-----

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