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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: As I said, a sum of €3 million has been allocated for that under D10. I expect that would happen on the commencement of Part 8 of the Act, once the decision was made by the Minister for Health. It is not a decision that I will make. I am not now in a position to provide an exact timeframe for the implementation of this Act. There are several complex strands to its work. However,...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I will be happy to revert to the Deputy with the details of the competition that is under way for the specialist people who are being recruited and the cost of this.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: On direct provision, the outturn for the Reception and Integration Agency was over €67 million which reflected the increase in the number of persons applying for protection in the State and also the number of persons who continued to live in State provided accommodation. It is, of course, after a steady decline in the years 2008 to 2014, inclusive. In 2017 the allocation was...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Obviously, we have to be conscious of numbers. There has in recent times been an increase in numbers for whom we will be required to cater having regard to our national and international obligations.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: It is not a fixed amount. It is dependent on the numbers of persons coming into the system who require to be accommodated in keeping with our national and international obligations.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: As far as service providers are concerned, a payment is made in accordance with the contract for the provision of the premises. Presumably, costs will rise from time to time, given the numbers of persons involved. It is not necessarily a fixed sum in accordance with a lease or contractual arrangement. There are other items of expenditure that will arise from time to time.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Yes.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: It is a contract with a number of variables. In the first instance, it will be on the basis of a cost per person, the length of the contract and the number of persons to be accommodated within the accommodation structure.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: On the matter of coroners, we continue to see greater efficiencies. The Deputy will be aware of the amalgamation of the Dublin city and county coroner services. There are ongoing discussions with coroners with a view towards ensuring efficiencies will be made, bearing in mind the need to ensure we will have a first class coronial service. The Deputy will be aware of the legislation before...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: The Deputy has asked two questions. On GSOC, resources and funding are kept under continuing review. I repeat it is absolutely essential that the ombudsman commission operates effectively and has sufficient resources to allow for that effective operation. A few weeks ago a business proposal was submitted seeking 37 additional staff at a cost of €1.7 million. This matter is under...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I do not accept what Deputy Wallace says in terms of the extent of his criticism. I visit direct provision centres and it seems to me that the greatest challenge is the length of time that residents spend in State-provided accommodation. That is an issue that needs to be addressed and is being addressed in the context of the International Protection Act. In the meantime, it needs to be...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: There are a little over 400 people in direct provision for a period of five years or more. That figure is down. The longest-serving person that I have met is a woman who indicated that she was in direct provision for nine years. That is merely anecdotal, however. I am assured that if that is the case, she is one of a very small number of persons. We need to ensure that applications are...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I keep in close contact with the former judge, Mr. Justice McMahon. I acknowledge the work he continues to do in this area. He has recognised that length of stay was the key challenge that needed to be addressed. I assure the committee that the focus of everybody involved is to meet the needs of those in the process in order to mitigate and minimise any undue discomfort that may be placed...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: It is in the justice section, in the justice Vote.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: It will be set up this year in terms of monitoring the issues involved - the establishment of the advisory committee.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: It is under the justice budget. It is actually under the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission's budget.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: They have said they are going to do it. I am not sure of the extent to which there is a significant cost factor. It is my understanding that this committee is being established.

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