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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Would it be possible to send us on details for the last ten years of the number of applications that were fully processed and where citizenship was granted?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: The second point relates to international protection. In 2022, I see that 13,647 applications were processed and in 2023 it was 13,277. Does that indicate also the number of applications received?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: If we go back over a five-year period, what kind of numbers are we talking about for the three years prior to 2022 and 2023?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: There is a perception out there that the numbers coming in are far higher than 13,000. I know it is slightly exaggerated because of the number of people who came in from Ukraine, but that is a different issue. As I understand it, there were 103,000 Ukrainians and 80,000 are currently still here. The perception out there is that far more than 13,000 a year are coming in. How many of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Was it 38% in 2023?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Do we have any evidence on where the other 62% are based whose applications we did not approve? Are they still in Ireland?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: If an applicant is in accommodation that is funded by the State and has gone through the entire process, including an appeal, at what stage does the State step in?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Is the Department satisfied that we have done everything possible to expedite the whole process, including the appeals process? It was being dragged on for quite a period of time because of judicial reviews, JRs, and all the rest of it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: What kind of numbers are we talking about for judicial reviews?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: We are still talking about a considerable period from the time a judicial review starts to when we get a final decision.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: If I can, I will just move back to the prisons issue. Ms McPhillips referred to overtime and taking prisoners into hospital for care, and other such matters. I raised HIV treatment in the health committee. If someone has HIV, as I understand it, the programme takes 12 weeks. In some cases it is available within the prison so the prisoner does not have to be taken into a hospital setting....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Yes, I am sorry - my apologies - it is hepatitis C. It is a huge cost if we have to take a prisoner into a hospital setting for 12 weeks in a row, whereas I understand in one of the prisons in Dublin they have a comprehensive programme whereby all of the care is within the prison.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Does Ms McCaffrey accept that there would be huge savings if we do not have to take prisoners to hospitals?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Is it now going to be available in every one of the prisons?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: I will move on to prison accommodation.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Can I just ask-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: There is now great pressure on accommodation. We also have to accept that the population of the country has increased by 40% and that there will therefore be more demand. Is there a programme within the Prison Service to develop additional facilities because of this pressure?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: What kind of time period are we talking about for the delivery of those projects?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: Are they still in the accommodation?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Colm Burke: We have talked about the cost of overtime. Is Ms McCaffrey satisfied that we have sufficient processes in place in our prisons to provide healthcare for prisoners whereby we could cut costs by having a service within the prison rather than people having to be transferred to a hospital setting?

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