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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We had one equine abattoir.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Will Mr. Sheahan provide us with a note on the number of animals slaughtered since January 2023 in that abattoir? Will he provide it by category - those which took part in racing and were excluded from the food chain? Will he provide some details on those animals? I do not expect him to have that information here. We heard about the five complaints made to the Department. Did the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Did the Department find anything?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The Department does not do routine checks.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: There is one abattoir.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: On red flags, there was a conviction previously. There were five complaints. The Department acted on complaints by the public but there were no other welfare checks. Mr. Sheahan has answered my question.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We are focusing on one particular aspect today.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Sheahan watched that programme and is telling us it was an aberration on the day that the filming took place.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: There were lame animals and animals in distress.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I want to move on to other questions. What are the respective roles of HRI and the IHRB in respect of the registration and microchipping of horses? Do they have a role? If the answer to this question is "No", just say "No".

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: That is the only role that the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board plays.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: On HRI, I believe we had this discussion before about the structure of HRI and IHRB is then funded by this HRI. This seems an odd way of doing things. Underneath that then there is the jockey welfare fund, which is a charity. Why was that almost a subset of IHRB and what was the magnitude of the money that was in the account? We know how much was transferred from the account and back to...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Who audits it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Would that be part-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Are there other related parties in addition to this charity?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Why were they not under the remit of the HRI rather than the IHRB?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: With regard to the governance, does Mr. O'Loughlin not think that a regulatory board should be completely separate and not dependent on HRI, for example? It seems to me that the separation is not ideal. Would Mr. O'Loughlin concur with that and is it something he has concerns about?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: There is a good degree of confusion in being called a regulatory board with the Department being the regulator with regard to most aspects, certainly of animal welfare traceability, so on and so forth. I would say that there is a degree of confusion and we had a bit of a discussion about this, if not on the last appearance of the board before our committee, then during the appearance before...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: What is the position specifically after last week's programme?

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