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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: -----I am saying the public service route would presumably be restored.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: It is an Expressway route anyway.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: I am sure Deputy Munster is not misleading anybody deliberately. I am not removing any routes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: I am not removing any routes at all. Bus Éireann is removing routes, not me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: The company is looking at a business plan and at those options. Presumably, we will be able to come up with a figure. To talk about insolvency at the moment, however, might not be the most responsible attitude to take. While I know it is convenient to paint a situation in which there will be Armageddon-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: I thank Deputy Barry. The figure is being worked out by the company, which is looking at that option. As far as I know, the figure is not available at the moment, but we know it will be very high and it is not an option-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: I will get back to the Deputy when I have a figure and when the company has a figure available. These is no figure available on that at the moment. I wish the Deputy would accept that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: The policy the Government is pursuing is not disastrous. It is disastrous in Deputy Barry's view. As of now, it has not been proven or there is no indication that it is disastrous.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: Deputy Barry would love to see it. Ever since I have come to the committee, he has been painting disaster. Whether the wish is the father of the thought, or the thought is the father of the wish, I do not know, but that is what he wants to see. What we are trying to do is avoid exactly that situation which Deputy Barry is painting. There are people working night and day to avoid that....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: Let me finish. Deputy Barry had a go. We realise the disaster it would be if this company had to close down. That is what we are trying to prevent and it is why we are asking people to be reasonable and to realise how difficult a situation that would be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: It is quite depressing to face Deputy Barry when he is making statements which are patently false to back up an argument which is irresponsible and reckless. To say that I wish to create a low-paid company is in direct contradiction of what I said in the statement I just read to him. There is no intention to do that at all. That is not the model.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: That is not the model. I want to answer the Deputy's question. That is not the model which we want to pursue. The Deputy also says that I have a privatisation agenda. I specifically added to the script, although the Deputy probably did not notice, and I said in my opening statement that privatisation is not part of the agenda. I have said that quite simply and give my word on that. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: -----makes me-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: Let me finish.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: I have nothing more to say, because the statements from Deputy Barry are utterly absurd.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: Is the Deputy asking if there are sufficient cost savings to be made within the company to bridge the gap?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: No. I have not. I do not believe it is up to me to do that, as a shareholder. I believe it is up to me to monitor what is going on, but not to identify the issues, because that would be getting involved in the nitty-gritty of the wage negotiations. That is a matter which will have to be resolved. I think it is acknowledged by both sides. I heard the union say last night that there is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: I have responsibility as a shareholder to the taxpayer, the consumer and others. I accept responsibility, but it is not my job to tell them to make cuts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: That is possibly true. When was that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Éireann: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2017)

Shane Ross: That was four years ago.

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