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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I understand it is frustrating for the Deputy. That is why I want to try to get the Deputy an answer. I want to get some answer in relation to the child and adolescent mental health services, CAMHS, teams.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know that. The Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: If this is acceptable, I would ask that the officials would come back to the Deputy with a written answer on what is being done specifically in relation to CAMHS. I am mindful of that, but I am also mindful of the fact that the Deputy will not be back because she has parliamentary duties that she cannot avoid. I am mindful of that and watching that. We will get everyone in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will allow Deputy Dillon back in for a second round if we have time

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy James O'Connor.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Very briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Very briefly, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will let the Deputy back in to raise his point in the second round of questions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will let the Deputy in for a second round. A few people will not show up. Deputy Carthy is taking Leaders' Questions, Deputy Munster has a bereavement and there are a few other gaps. I will try to get people in a second time. Will Mr. Reid focus on the dental scheme? I will deal with the dental treatment services scheme, DTSS, first. The scheme does not exist in many counties....

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: No, just throughout the country in general.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is okay. It was just to clarify that. There are negotiations going on and I do not want the officials to announce what is going on but we are dealing with thousands of private businesses because each dental practice is a private business. That is fair enough. I am not hung up on that. It is the business they are in. They have all come together and they have an association with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is it being discussed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is the dispute still unresolved?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Has the Irish Dental Association accepted that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Will that be back before us in two or three years time? That is what I am concerned about. The system has been problematic going back years. It is about Government policy but Government policy is now to move to Sláintecare. Mr. Watt and I know what Sláintecare is about: it is a public health system. I do not want to be too ideological about it but it generally means that we...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I now turn to the school dental scheme. I apologise for moving quickly. What is the budget for the school dental scheme this year or last year if the officials do not have the figures for this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: How much would it be going back over the years? Mr. Mulvany must have some idea as financial officer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is it €10 million, €20 million? What are we looking at for school dentistry?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Here is where I have the problem. As I have said here before, I saw a dentist when I was eight or nine years old. My grandchild is 16 years and has not seen a school dentist. I am not here to fight her battle but I am trying to illustrate that the system is not working when it comes to primary school dentistry. Health professionals and common sense tell us that it is about a stitch...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is a shortage of dentists.

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