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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: It will not cover the whole range of data.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is that agreed? Agreed. We will move on to No. 1320C from Deputy Catherine Murphy, dated 21 June. We have dealt with that already. It relates to toll plazas. The next is No. 1334C, dated 28 June. It is a submission from Deputy Neasa Hourigan and is about consideration of correspondence relating to the closure of the Owencurra centre which was before the committee last week. It proposes...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: There is a carbon copy of it in south Laois.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Could I suggest that we add Erkina House-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: -----and do a similar examination because it is going through the same process at the moment? It has been paused for a review, which was not done prior to the decision being made to close it and move the people out of it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Once a week.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Putting a focus on it is correct but, with Erkina House, it is so simple and there is so much of a correlation. The two cases are classic examples of where these types of issues arise. They are very similar. I am not totally au faitwith Owenacurra. Except for the information coming before this committee, I would not have the information that the local public representatives have....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: That we look at Erkina House.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is mental health. I suggest that because it is such a carbon copy in so many ways, it would be useful to see whether the issue is systemic across the HSE. It would be very similar-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: CHO 8.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: OK. I do not see Deputy Colm Burke’s hand signal but it has been brought to my attention that he wants to contribute. Could he hand-signal when he wants to contribute?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is one of the questions here. There is a proposal with two parts. One is that we submit the questions submitted by Deputy Hourigan to those concerned. The second is that we do a piece of work on mental health services in CHO 8 and the Cork CHO, which is CHO 4. Is that agreed? Agreed. I thank members very much for that. To move on to the work programme, we have representatives of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Just wait until the end. I know the Deputy might want to contribute on this. I propose that we consider our first few engagements for our return in September at our next meeting. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the Deputy proposing? Is it that there be a representative from An Bord Pleanála without anyone from the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy does not want a principal officer. That is OK. My document just refers to a representative from the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: How many recommendations were there roughly? Was it 20 or 30?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is a detailed piece of work.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The vast majority of the challenges have been lost by An Bord Pleanála. Can we agree on Deputy Kelly's proposal in respect of the review of local government that was carried out by the Department at the time?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (30 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Was it? But it was instigated by the Department.

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